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RE: Can we infer a counterbid? - cybersssss - 07-14-2016 I too would prefer on all cash component to the deal. I also prefer the US equity for the Australian equity. Hopefully Exxon can pony up enough to make all shareholders happy enough. I am not certain if Hession is purposefully not revealing the bid or he is constrained under the OSH contract. He is less then credible to shareholders. RE: Can we infer a counterbid? - Getitrt2 - 07-14-2016 Art, I basically agree, except that the lower interest in Papua LNG would come along with some interest in the future of PNG LNG also. Of course, with Exxon we could participate in both to a limited extent, and with US securities and a dividend. Also, with Exxon owning IOC, I would bet on PNG LNG getting expanded more and much more quickly. Exxon might become more of a growth stock than it is now - ho ho! RE: Can we infer a counterbid? - ArtM72 - 07-14-2016
'Getitrt2' pid='73737' datel Wrote: As Dr. Hession has pointed out in the even recent past GLJ has been the most consistently correct of those firms publishing public assessments of IOC resource numbers and thus the most logical choice for obtaining a valid certification. As suggested by Stavros another likely impartial certification would come by way of XOM as a purchase of IOC would make Total's binding committments subject to XOM's scrutiny. Even in that scenario we might not see all of the upside but at least OSH and TOT would not be in a position to tell us what few crumbs they are willing to cast our way. OSH suggesting Hession will be on the CVR board looking out for IOC shareholder rights is simply beyond human understanding. RE: Can we infer a counterbid? - Getitrt2 - 07-14-2016
'davidhmtk' pid='73718' datel Wrote: I think you are right. OSH only has to match, make Exxon "not superior". I would say Total is competing indirectly by working with OSH, which is ironic (It's all about money.), since their side deal is necessary for OSH to get it done. Total probably does not want to compete directly with Exxon, but may have to at some point, perhaps if it gets beyond OSH capability. I think Exxon has a lot to gain or lose, particularly given the needs and opportunities with PNG LNG relative to IOC's confirmed gas and controlling positions in other leases likely/potential gas, and also getting control of IOC's PRL 15 deal with Total, which is looking more and more lucrative as the likely certifiable gas grows. I have to wonder how Antelope 7 would fit into this. I think Exxon has been very conservative and coy with bids in the past when they had other possible alternatives and less information, and saw no need to hurry; but I think they have now decided they need it and it's time to act, and have a feeling they are not likely to be willing to lose out to the likes of OSH, with Total being the wild card. REAL competition is good for the target, and I hope Exxon or Total gets it done without OSH soon, although none of this is what I had been hoping for or expecting based on long-running previous management guidance. RE: Can we infer a counterbid? - weaselpuppy - 07-14-2016 Another thought to ponder for very long term holders is if the XOM deal is in stock, does the XOM dividend goose the rerurn enough to meet the one OSH positive of participating in the upside in a higher appreciation rate basis than XOM stock? RE: Can we infer a counterbid? - Putncalls - 07-14-2016 What would/could XOM and TOT do, to avoid a bidding match? RE: Can we infer a counterbid? - ArtM72 - 07-14-2016
'Getitrt2' pid='73740' datel Wrote:Art, I basically agree, except that the lower interest in Papua LNG would come along with some interest in the future of PNG LNG also. Of course, with Exxon we could participate in both to a limited extent, and with US securities and a dividend. Also, with Exxon owning IOC, I would bet on PNG LNG getting expanded more and much more quickly. Exxon might become more of a growth stock than it is now - ho ho! Yeah, a little far fetched to think of it as much of a growth stock, but energy is kind of like water. You don't know its value until it is in extremely short supply. Of the hydrocarbons natural gas and gas liquids are the best place to be from an environmental standpoint. Also I expect from a total cost of ownership for generating equipment standpoint as well. Polyethylene pipes are the greatest it seems for everything I do. |