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- admin - 05-18-2012
["Hasn’t a certain someone on the Yazoo board argued time and again that naked shorting does not exist today and IOC shareholders are just being paranoid?"]
Yes Palm, and that person has ridiculed a website Deepcapture.com that has argued for years it exists, and is pretty close with another guy who makes a (second) career out of finding fault with Overstock, whose CEO funded that website, which now has been at least partially vindicated.
- Palm - 05-18-2012
Yes, my memory is clearing on who might have been posting that. And there is a company named Herbalife that has had similar attacks. You don't suppose something underhanded could be going on do you? Now that this has been exposed I bet the Feds get right after it and clean it up very quickly. They always do.
RE: - bertl05 - 11-30-2012
'ValueSleuth' pid='483' datel Wrote:Here's the link to an article which discusses Goldman Sach's inadvertent disclosure of it's naked short selling activities in the stock of Overstock.com. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/accidentally-released-and-incredibly-embarrassing-documents-show-how-goldman-et-al-engaged-in-naked-short-selling-20120515 Remember the naked shorting days of IOC? Well, where there's smoke there's ........ VS
If you think it isnt going on in certain stocks think again. Ive written my congressman and emailed the SEC numerous times, The sad part is they are all sucking the same hind tit.
RE: - Tusker - 12-02-2012
'ValueSleuth' pid='483' datel Wrote:Here's the link to an article which discusses Goldman Sach's inadvertent disclosure of it's naked short selling activities in the stock of Overstock.com. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/accidentally-released-and-incredibly-embarrassing-documents-show-how-goldman-et-al-engaged-in-naked-short-selling-20120515 Remember the naked shorting days of IOC? Well, where there's smoke there's ........ VS
Thanks,
Tusker
RE: Naked short selling exposure - trans - 12-02-2012
One lingering question I've had for a good while is why hasn't Goldman, one of our larger holders of IOC ever comment, mention, or recommend IOC. I can think of only one thing, and I'd sure like to know for sure. I believe they're our largest market maker, and as such I'm concerned they are one of the largest traders of our stock. It follows that it may be more profitable to trade IOC constantly, rather than recommend the stock to their clients. I'm very concerned about this, and the above article points in that direction. fwiw
Funny also, Cramer who has close goldman ties imo, recommended recently (the street, his shop also) that investors "sell" IOC. That's unusual, because he generally avoids comment on IOC when asked. Maybe this is where the stock to short at ioc is coming from?
RE: Naked short selling exposure - freddiekingman - 12-03-2012
(12-02-2012, 11:44 PM)trans Wrote: One lingering question I've had for a good while is why hasn't Goldman, one of our larger holders of IOC ever comment, mention, or recommend IOC. I can think of only one thing, and I'd sure like to know for sure. I believe they're our largest market maker, and as such I'm concerned they are one of the largest traders of our stock. It follows that it may be more profitable to trade IOC constantly, rather than recommend the stock to their clients. I'm very concerned about this, and the above article points in that direction. fwiw
Funny also, Cramer who has close goldman ties imo, recommended recently (the street, his shop also) that investors "sell" IOC. That's unusual, because he generally avoids comment on IOC when asked. Maybe this is where the stock to short at ioc is coming from?
I agree completely with what you say...naked shorting is mostly done by very big players...Goldman never recommended IOC a buy or strong buy (not that I can think of since 2009)..so, it all makes sence...maybe if that changes, all changes..