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RE: It's all my fault. - MartiniStocks9756 - 12-10-2015
Good post ebster. Gator I enjoyed reading your posts. Taking the basketball and leaving the court in haste and over disagreements on this informational and education board is really if you think long and hard about it silly. Heck Getit has told me many times he thinks my posts are inaccurate or I am wrong or he disagrees with my stated position. And I am a newby to this board not IOC though... I can deal with it knowing Getit believes the company is doing its best to deliver the gas with the hand they have dealt themselves the past eight years. You believe the company has disappointed every time in every way. But seems to me we all and you both want success. We all want it now. We are not going to get that due to all the crap I posted yesterday. And it is complicated and we all have to evaluate how much longer we want to be shareholders. If I knew that Hession is going to be right and in 2022 IOC will be getting 9 billion which I don't completely understand and that amount given another six years is worth the wait along with a few billion here or there due to RBT I might lean to be patient although it would be nice to know what that could equate to as a PPS and more explanation would be helpful. But you could be right and the whole thing is a sham because your position of incompetent management, executives, agreements etc. Having your opinion keeps the balance as ebster stated. These are words and anonymously stated really don't hurt ya. Bring the ball back I want to dunk it!
RE: It's all my fault. - Stavros - 12-10-2015
Thy said: "Good luck, Gator. While wishing you the best, I think the board will be better without you."
How sad to see that this seems to be the conclusion of so many on SHU ... facts put onto the table by Gator and others are considered to be postings by people who have an "Agenda."
Those who appreciate Gator (sfiaes, ebster, Martini, ME, Petrovale, et al) are apparently in the minority.
At least people like Thy grudgingly wish Gator "Good Luck" ... WHY? Because if Gator is "Lucky" it means IOC's share price improved.
I must say, Thy, that I agree with your view: seeing a positive outcome from continuing to hold IOC going forward will require a whole lotta Luck. TRANSLATION: Gambling!
People should invest in IOC because they conclude - - - based on facts, circumstances, and the plans laid out by Management for shareholders to see and monitor - - - that an investment made in IOC will have a higher return than putting the money into another holding (or even putting it under the mattress).
Unfortunately, I've spent the past two years watching IOC bumble and stumble along, repeatedly missing timelines. None of my expectations were met.
I also agree with Getitrt that the ultimate E/A Resource Payment from Total to IOC will not be impacted by the "oil collapse."
BUT for the love of Mike (and for Pete's sake), how can this guy always Get It All So WRONG, and continually praise a CEO who claimed (loudly and with conviction I may add) that he would under-promise on every aspect of the company performance and then subsequently proceeded to under-deliver based on the under-promises.
Dr Hession seemingly removes the pebbles from his shoes every afternoon before he goes home.
There must be SOMETHING that "Getitwrong" thinks IOC Top Management failed to do properly in the past 2+ years?
RE: It's all my fault. - Thylacine-2 - 12-10-2015
Actually, Stavros, I doubt that Gator has an "agenda".
It would be helpful,imo, to see the board return to the good old days when the discussion was more unemotional and technical. If someone is upset or frustrated, they should share that emotion with their old lady or their drinking buddies.
RE: It's all my fault. - Putncalls - 12-10-2015
Maybe the "old lady" is telling him that A7 sucks.
RE: It's all my fault. - Spartina - 12-10-2015
Gator, take a break if you have to but please reconsider.
RE: It's all my fault. - admin - 12-10-2015
I'm a little surprised at this. Gator has offered some strong opinions and unsurprisingly, not everybody agreed and he got some strong opinions back.
There is nothing wrong with any of this, it is a message board, people are bound to have strong and different opinions. Within bounds, a message board is exactly the place for expressing these.
Doesn't seem to be a reason to leave in my opinion, but each has to decide this for themselves, of course.
RE: It's all my fault. - steve3752 - 12-10-2015
I hope you will reconsider. Virtually everyone would agree you are not a closet short and are long the stock. Anyone long the stock has the right to express their opinions on management whether they be positive or negative. The problem is that certain people on this board have continually been allowed to mount personal attacks and engage in name calling which should not be allowed.
While I value the administrator, perhaps deleting some of the more inflamatory posts on this board is needed to prevent this.
Please do not leave.
RE: It's all my fault. - MRP - 12-10-2015
I agree with steve. Don't let the board bully get you down. We still appreciate you.
Maybe we could make an Interoil subforum where getit just makes 1 post each day calling anyone negative a short and haranguing everyone at once so it doesn't have to be done repeatedly in every thread.
RE: It's all my fault. - sageo - 12-11-2015
'steve3752' pid='65265' datel Wrote:I hope you will reconsider. Virtually everyone would agree you are not a closet short and are long the stock. Anyone long the stock has the right to express their opinions on management whether they be positive or negative. The problem is that certain people on this board have continually been allowed to mount personal attacks and engage in name calling which should not be allowed.
While I value the administrator, perhaps deleting some of the more inflamatory posts on this board is needed to prevent this.
Please do not leave.
Gator - I "ditto" Steve's words . Please do not leave.
RE: It's all my fault. - jdeo1969 - 12-11-2015
'Getitrt2' pid='65233' datel Wrote:Humorous, but obviously not serious, and nothing anybody claimed or charged, as far as I know. Agreements reached with "most" of the minority interest holders were "subject to", and not binding or final, as I stated. I think it is a distortion to say "InterOil is now running dangerously low on cash", which is contradicted by both Morgan Stanley and Raymond James. OSH was apparently desperate to get in, and that is what and how they had to pay to outbid IOC and get the Pac LNG/IPI interests and the possibility of pushing Total out and diverting gas to PNG LNG, which they failed to do. I think IOC did the right thing, as I commented on, and the "oil collapse" will have no effect on IOC's certification payments.
Very reasonable analysis in my opinion.