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Article deleted from Upstreamonline – a confirmation of Shell’s plans to acquire IOC? - Printable Version +- ShareholdersUnite Forums (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb) +-- Forum: Companies (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: InterOil Forum (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Thread: Article deleted from Upstreamonline – a confirmation of Shell’s plans to acquire IOC? (/showthread.php?tid=4338) |
RE: deleted from Upstreamonline – a confirmation of Shell’s plans to acquire IOC? - ArtM72 - 08-09-2013
'TxPm' pid='26771' datel Wrote:For those of you starting to feel a little anxious I thought this article may help: http://m.seekingalpha.com/article/115462
Thanks, Tx. Nothing like a tale of woe to brighten one's morning RE: Article deleted from Upstreamonline - ArtM72 - 08-09-2013 "There is a lot of potential answers as to why it is taking so long and the correct answers may not have even been discussed yet. IOC could be working on two, three or more deals, all interlocking, that may require tweaking in order to finally mesh with all parties. We just don't know. "
Wouldn't it be easier on us all if they just took a lead from Major League Baseball and wrap up the deal with the statement "and a player to be named later"? RE: Known vs Unknown - kommonsents - 08-09-2013
'Ass0ciatedPress' pid='26785' datel Wrote: What I meant by "cheap to buy" was that, similar to mining operations that mine other metals while mining the primary metal, the other metals can result in a "negative cost" to mine the primary metal. IOC is in a similar situation with their wet gas. The value of the condensates will reduce the costs to produce the NG, the primary commodity. I don't know what the actual numbers are off-hand, but it is probable that the net cost to produce the NG will be negative after realizing the revenue from the condensates, possibly even oil if found in adeguate quantities. I think this has all been discussed here before. The comment that the "demand is oversubscribed" is in reference to the demand and price of LNG around the world. Prices are high due to the growing demand versus supply and trending higher over the years. That trend will probably continue into the foreseeable future until the next fuel, perhaps hydrogen, becomes more technically advantageous. I believe NG and LNG is our transitional fuel for energy including transportation for the near and medium term future. IOC has a very advantageous cost structure as well as very promising future discoveries in their unexplored/underexplored areas. I agree with you that IOC should be drilling, at least based on what we think we know. Perhaps there will be some clarification on that in the next CC. At least, I hope so.
RE: Article deleted from Upstreamonline – a confirmation of Shell - Brew Swillis - 08-09-2013 Kommon, couldn't agree more with all you've said in this thread. Seems to me the deal is evolving, hence the belated consumation. RE: irmation of Shell’s plans to acquire IOC? - Putncalls - 08-09-2013
'Ass0ciatedPress' pid='26767' datel Wrote: RE: Article deleted... - Hoosier1 - 08-09-2013 I'll put my two cents into this discussion...since I have previously espoused time as an important variable. I fear using an analogy of another exploration company (in a different sector) since analogies are imperfect and can be picked apart... but here goes anyway. I know of another mining exploration company that was headed up by the "Mining Man of the Year"... found great prospects... ponied up and went out drilling.... Found exceptional results... the concession was touted as one of the best finds ever... the company kept drilling and kept getting great results... slowly they acrrued 43-101 recordable reserves, probable and inferred resources... had known "verbal" offers for the company... the sector was running high... all of the "majors" were gobbling up the junior explorers... this company was expected to get plucked & it all was good...but the company waited... they could get more... and we waited and waited and waited... company stops drilling because they have booked more reserves then needed to be acquired... exceptional grades, and quantity, and obviously they was more & all was good... the company was in informal talks.... but we waited...and waited...and waited... supposedly go into exclusive negotiations and all was good... but we waited and waited.... mean while, the market started changing, dropping, economy changing, majors catching heat from big buyouts of the minor explorations... and so we waited... To end this drama, the company is sitting on resources, recordable - balance sheet resources...still one of the best finds for its sector... and they are being taken over for mere pennies. The above actual example has more differences to it than similarities... the greatest being it's a larger corporation with competent management My main point here is that you can wait too long & I really do not like that IOC has stopped drilling. Things that can happen to IOC (possible but maybe not probable):
With a supposed deal in play, the more time passes, the higher the probability of a negative outcome creeps in. Time to... Get'r Done Boys!!! RE: Article deleted... - CAC - 08-09-2013 [quote='Hoosier1' pid='26809' dateline='1375999155'] I'll put my two cents into this discussion...since I have previously espoused time as an important variable. I fear using an analogy of another exploration company (in a different sector) since analogies are imperfect and can be picked apart... but here goes anyway. I know of another mining exploration company that was headed up by the "Mining Man of the Year"... found great prospects... ponied up and went out drilling.... Found exceptional results... the concession was touted as one of the best finds ever... the company kept drilling and kept getting great results... slowly they acrrued 43-101 recordable reserves, probable and inferred resources... had known "verbal" offers for the company... the sector was running high... all of the "majors" were gobbling up the junior explorers... this company was expected to get plucked & it all was good...but the company waited... they could get more... and we waited and waited and waited... company stops drilling because they have booked more reserves then needed to be acquired... exceptional grades, and quantity, and obviously they was more & all was good... the company was in informal talks.... but we waited...and waited...and waited... supposedly go into exclusive negotiations and all was good... but we waited and waited.... mean while, the market started changing, dropping, economy changing, majors catching heat from big buyouts of the minor explorations... and so we waited... To end this drama, the company is sitting on resources, recordable - balance sheet resources...still one of the best finds for its sector... and they are being taken over for mere pennies. The above actual example has more differences to it than similarities... the greatest being it's a larger corporation with competent management My main point here is that you can wait too long & I really do not like that IOC has stopped drilling. Things that can happen to IOC (possible but maybe not probable):
With a supposed deal in play, the more time passes, the higher the probability of a negative outcome creeps in. Time to... Get'r Done Boys!!! ++++++++++++++ Wise indeed, Hoosier. RE: Article deleted... - ebster123 - 08-09-2013
'Hoosier1' pid='26809' dateline='<a href="tel:1375999 Wrote:
well put, bears will be bears and bulls will be bulls.....but pigs get slaughtered. GET IT DONE!!!!! It's baaaaack! - Tree - 08-09-2013 Dangit! The article is back. Dated today. RE: It's baaaaack! - petrengr1 - 08-09-2013
'Tree' pid='26813' datel Wrote: What does this mean? I don't have access to the article dated tomorrow, Aug. 9th. Is it exactly the same as the one dated Aug 2nd? or has it been changed by inserting something or leaving something out? It all seems a bit strange.
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