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MS on IOC - Printable Version +- ShareholdersUnite Forums (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb) +-- Forum: Companies (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: InterOil Forum (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Thread: MS on IOC (/showthread.php?tid=6691) |
RE: MS on IOC - Kaliboo - 05-20-2014 I believe Hession said bobcat was on its 2nd sidetrack due to the shale but the other 2 wells had gotten thru it ok. He was attempting to dilute the bad news of bobcat, I.e., two failed attempts and now working on the 3rd attempt. That means their prior methods of dealing with this difficult interval aren't working. He hated to share that negative news so he used diversionary statements like the 1 in 10 typical exploration success rate and the cap rock comment. If the 3rd attempt doesn't work they may have to abandon the hole if you are out of options, materials and/or budget. That would not be good news. There is a limit and at some point you stop and quit and go drill another well somewhere else. That is not uncommon and could occur here. Hopefully it won't. These well estimates typically are P50 numbers, meaning there's a 50% chance it will take longer. Multiple bad things can happen to substantially extend the time and cost. This is typical oilfield. Exploration wells generally are much riskier but there's exceptions. Sooner or later every company drills a "well from hell". Those are big budget busters that take forever and encounter all kinds of big, difficult problems. Some in the end prevail and are successful and others are big failures. But it's only a 1'well failure. Not the end of the world. Companies use on site precautions to prevent the leaking of info. Plus no one at the rig has a complete data set to provide useful specifics. The remoteness here helps. More likely someone in IOC would be the source of a leak. Wells which take longer than expected generally means they encountered greater difficulty and problems than expected and/or the pay zone is more confusing and needs more extensive evaluation to sort it out. The fastest well is one that has no drilling problems and no pay. A dry hole. The next fastest is one with no drilling problems and has textbook high quality pay which can be evaluated with minimal evaluation operations. For wahoo it's looking like it's neither of the last two cases.
RE: MS on IOC - jft310 - 05-20-2014 Past analysts reports have given an estimate of $12 a share for a sale of the refinery. RE: MS on IOC - johnwgrant - 05-20-2014 What advantage to selling the refinery? I think having a "large" employment footprint in PNG helps them in many ways - including negotiations with the government... JMHO. RE: MS on IOC - Getitrt2 - 05-20-2014 Who would they sell it to? Also, with the refinery they control a large, long-term, valuable land lease of a previous Australian military base with a deep-water harbor. RE: MS on IOC - Getitrt2 - 05-20-2014 What I'm hearing about Bobcat is that they have encountered such problems before and have confidence they will get the well drilled, even if they have to move the rig a short distance, which is not expected, and that there's apparently a great seal for hydrocarbons below. RE: MS on IOC - Tree - 05-21-2014
'Getitrt2' pid='43587' datel Wrote:Who would they sell it to? Also, with the refinery they control a large, long-term, valuable land lease of a previous Australian military base with a deep-water harbor. Don't know the 'who', it will likely be a regional refiner or maybe even PNG itsself with a major stake. Asia refiners fmostly ollow the 'Downstream Integration' model. Downstream integration. Dedicated marketing channels take more than 50 percent ofthe downstream integrated refiner's production. These trades are secured either through equity or long-term contractual arrangements." North American refiners largely follow the 'Vertical Integration' refinery model. This was Phil's model with goal becoming a 'vertically integrated energy company'. Vertical integration. Fulfilling the requirements for upstream and downstream integrated refiners at the same time, the vertically integrated refiner is able to capture value by making the most of advantages across the value chain.
With IOC's refinery market being largely 'on island' with pricing controls, vertical may not be the best model. Likely IOC would keep a minor refinery stake and strike a licening deal for retail outlets and goodwill of the InterOil name. More value to us in exploration and LNG. RE: MS on IOC - Palm - 05-21-2014 Obviously MS has heard the same things others have; a partial or complete sale of the refinery and rest of downstream would create additional cash for IOC. The lease wouldn't be affected as they are using the laydown area for LNG staging and who knows where the final site will be for the LNG plant itself. Last year there were rumors that Shell had visited the refinery as well as others. With PNG LNG now in production the whole picture of PNG has changed. RE: MS on IOC - Gator - 05-21-2014 "We don't know what we don't know". That being said Popeye Doyle has raised IOC to a "buy". RE: MS on IOC - Libtardius Maximus - 05-21-2014 [quote='Gator' pid='43601' dateline='1400600078'] "We don't know what we don't know". That being said Popeye Doyle has raised IOC to a "buy".
So has Winston Wolf. |