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Decreased comfort level - admin - 04-10-2019 I have to admit that my comfort level with Pareteum is decreasing a bit due to a couple of critical articles and comments. I feel that I can't entirely ignore these criticisms and we think investors in general should not ignore other opinions of their stock, even if they're completely the opposite of one's own opinion. Here is some of the stuff I'm uncomfortable with as I don't have ready answers and can't argue these away:
In case you think I'm changing my mind 180 degrees and turned into a short, no. There are a number of positives that stand quite solidly and are difficult to deny, like:
Whatever exactly the reality is, sentiment seems to have turned as the stock seems to be unable to rally further on good news. I realize people might even get angry at me for writing this, but I feel one should be as open as possible to conflicting information and alternative readings of the facts and I feel I have a duty my followers to also point out potential pitfalls. We should at least discuss these things open, here. RE: Decreased comfort level - admin - 04-10-2019 And here is another item we can't really answer (our emphasis): Quote:The last time Pareteum broke out the backlog by year was in their AGM presentation in September. It was $375 million at the time. Here it is:THE AMAZING CHART I JUST CAN'T BUY---PARETEUM: TEUM-NASD - Oil and Gas Investments Bulletin | Seeking Alpha So the conundrum is that:
RE: Decreased comfort level - TurboTime - 04-10-2019 (04-10-2019, 02:05 AM)admin Wrote: I have to admit that my comfort level with Pareteum is decreasing a bit due to a couple of critical articles and comments. I feel that I can't entirely ignore these criticisms and we think investors in general should not ignore other opinions of their stock, even if they're completely the opposite of one's own opinion.Admin, I hear your concerns and positives, let me do my best to respond to a couple of yours and mine concerns. BTW, I am a long time, way over due bag holder of ETAK/TEUM, avg down after RS to $1.86 with approx 100K shares. Concern 1: I am happy to see and know from my own calculations that Hal and TEUM has, I would say conservatively, baked in the backlog conversion of 75-80% for 2019 rev targets $105m-$115M. As well all know, 100% is impossible to achieve but with this float, they can manage the over and under revenue actuals buy customer. Concern 2: Major concern of mine. I knew of TEd from a previous disaster of a stock call AUGT/HIPP which went belly up a couple years back and I dont trust Ted as far as I can throw him. I believe in second chances but it seems trouble follows Ted around.. Google him.. Concern 3: comparing TWLO to TEAm is like comparing Apples to Oranges from a technical standpoint. yes they are in the same Industry, but their back-end platforms are very different. (TWLO is "heavy" to run, analogy I like to use is like running SAP - ERP and TEAM is very light to run, like SFDC) So with this the supporting infrastructure and resource load can be significantly reduced under the TEUM model.. Bottom line is the "proof is in the pudding" as the next couple Quarters rev results and backlog conversion is critical to mkt trust. All the best, KI RE: Decreased comfort level - admin - 04-10-2019 Thanks, appreciated and welcome aboard Turbo. RE: Decreased comfort level - Cann - 04-10-2019 It didn't take much to change your mind, apparently, but I guess thanks for letting us know, sort off.. RE: Decreased comfort level - Patc - 04-10-2019 Surprised you got scared out that quickly. So you give more credibility to some bloggers than you do to 3 or 4 analysts RE: Decreased comfort level - admin - 04-10-2019 (04-10-2019, 05:57 AM)Patc Wrote: Surprised you got scared out that quickly. So you give more credibility to some bloggers than you do to 3 or 4 analysts It's not that I give more credibility to this one or that one, it's that they raise issues which I can't immediately address, especially when there are a number of these. I simply can't guarantee that there is nothing wrong with their backlog numbers, which increased a level of discomfort surpassing a threshold. Apart from that, the stock didn't rally on this morning's news, which was another sign to take at least some profit, IMHO. The real story will come out in the Q1 figures. RE: Decreased comfort level - Vincehap - 04-10-2019 Thank you SHU. I had admired and appreciated you and your works. And because of this frank concern of TEUM, I admire and appreciate you more. I only wish you could do this in one of your articles on SeekingAlpha. Sincerely, Vincehap RE: Decreased comfort level - admin - 04-10-2019 (04-10-2019, 06:17 AM)Vincehap Wrote: Thank you SHU. I had admired and appreciated you and your works. And because of this frank concern of TEUM, I admire and appreciate you more. I only wish you could do this in one of your articles on SeekingAlpha. Thanks, appreciated. Well, an SA article takes time, then it spends like 24 hours with the editors (this is no dig at SA, they are overwhelmed by articles), and I actually don't really have much more to say than the above. RE: Decreased comfort level - Coach24 - 04-10-2019 I don't have a lot of the investment knowledge as many on this site so perhaps I may be wrong because my understanding may not be as strong as some. The stock was at 3.91 on March 12th the day before earnings peaked on March 18th at 5.93 and now is at 4.35 which isn't much above when we got last audited numbers. I have concerns like others but the price isn't much higher than at last earnings so to me it appears most if not all the concerns are already baked into the price. I can understand some profit taking on the concerns from those who have a lot of profit already. I also understand SHU's concerns as he has written a number of positive articles about the stock so I see why he would want to express both positives and negatives he sees. I'm staying Long TEUM at this time. |