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Stylized facts - Printable Version +- ShareholdersUnite Forums (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb) +-- Forum: Companies (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Pareteum (TEUM) (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=61) +--- Thread: Stylized facts (/showthread.php?tid=12398) |
Stylized facts - admin - 04-12-2019 Stylized facts are facts which are supported by the weight of existing evidence. These are subject to change when new evidence appears (or when one becomes aware of its existence). In case of Pareteum: Evidence pertaining revenues:
RE: Stylized facts - admin - 04-12-2019 And here is another reason why we wrote what we wrote: Quote:Defense is 10 times more important than offense. You have to be very focused on protecting the downside at all times. These are the wise words of hedge fund manager Paul Tudor Jones. His mantra seems a bit counterintuitive, considering an enviable track record that has made him best known for delivering outsized returns over the past four decades. Why Investors Should Obsess Over Risk, Not Returns | Seeking Alpha Obsessing over risk, rather than returns. Or at the minimum, not be blind to them or arguing them away. RE: Stylized facts - admin - 04-12-2019 Here is another way of looking at it: I'm actually not saying anything new. The fact that no long is defending their backlog numbers shows that I'm saying out loud which what most already know anyway. For instance, the company guided 2019 revenues at $144M in November in the iPass acquisition presentation and that came down to $105M-$115M during the Q4CC whilst in between, backlog has almost doubled in-between. The explanation they gave for that is that conversion moved from 100% to 75%-80%, basically not even management has faith in their own backlog numbers. The question really is by how much these backlog numbers are overstated. They have a substantial margin here, which is somewhat reassuring. That is, you can cut backlog in half and the company would still grow revenues substantially, which is indeed what they've been doing. But how comfortable are investors with a management that is so aggressive with these numbers? RE: Stylized facts - TurboTime - 04-17-2019 (04-12-2019, 11:14 PM)admin Wrote: Here is another way of looking at it: I'm actually not saying anything new. The fact that no long is defending their backlog numbers shows that I'm saying out loud which what most already know anyway. Aggressive, I think that is a very bold statement especially when TEUM has been over delivering for the past 5 Qs now. I for one, am very pleased to see that they have taken a more conservative approach to the backlog conversion as nothing we do in biz is 100%, especially SaaS modeling software. This is the very reason for the new 606 accounting principals. Back to my point, you are being overly critical of the backlog especially when TEUM has not undelivered to the street and/or analysts expectations. RE: Stylized facts - admin - 04-17-2019 I think you brush the fact that over a time when backlog basically doubled, they really materially declined revenue guidance by tens of millions of dollars all to easily under the carpet. Take the following stylized facts:
I still see good growth, but I also see a few dodgy customers (of the few we know of) and a seemingly growing disconnect between revenue and backlog. I'm simply concerned and have to little data to make any firm determinations one way or another. RE: Stylized facts - Daxcoppinger - 04-18-2019 (04-17-2019, 09:33 AM)TurboTime Wrote:(04-12-2019, 11:14 PM)admin Wrote: Here is another way of looking at it: I'm actually not saying anything new. The fact that no long is defending their backlog numbers shows that I'm saying out loud which what most already know anyway. Well, I am no bear, but TEUM's management is stunningly aggressive, what kind on managemet sets out a $25 share price target in the 3QCC (x10 in that time) if not an aggrissive kind? RE: Stylized facts - admin - 04-18-2019 (04-18-2019, 06:10 AM)Daxcoppinger Wrote: Well, I am no bear, but TEUM's management is stunningly aggressive, what kind on managemet sets out a $25 share price target in the 3QCC (x10 in that time) if not an aggrissive kind? Yes, that was quite aggressive although I put it down as a bit of a loose remark. As a matter of fact, it is still possible if they indeed keep revenue growing at 40%-50% and become profitable. While we previously thought this was more than likely, there are a few more question marks appearing now so we need to see two or three quarters of results before we might become as convinced as we were. RE: Stylized facts - admin - 04-24-2019 Turns out one of the companies that The Oil & Gas Trader Bulletin had flagged as dodgy isn't dodgy. We should have checked that, so mea culpa for that. The company in question is ACM Europe and while we don't know whether it can be responsible for the $50M in backlog that was penciled in in that backlog PR, it's certainly a company of sufficient heft and there is nothing dodgy about it. Our questions with regard to exploding backlog while significantly dialing down revenue guidance remains, but we're no longer all that worried about potentially dodgy customers. RE: Stylized facts - TurboTime - 04-24-2019 (04-24-2019, 12:33 AM)admin Wrote: Turns out one of the companies that The Oil & Gas Trader Bulletin had flagged as dodgy isn't dodgy. We should have checked that, so mea culpa for that. I saw that as well, ACM, and laughed as I personally know the Cupisz twins very well. And to your point, it is "a company of sufficient heft" and I look for this relationship to materialize significantly. Im sure, at the end of the day, Hal will fully address the concerns floating around backlog/conversion Revs on May 7th. RE: Stylized facts - admin - 04-25-2019 Yes, I overlooked it as the other companies mentioned in the Oil&Gas trader article did look quite improbable bringing in tens of millions of revenues and I don't know the Oil&Gas trader as a BS artist (neither Alex). But I should have checked nevertheless, so mea culpa. |