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Apology - admin - 12-01-2012

I used some inappropriate language yesterday, which is actually a bit out of character. I was actually meaning to cross it out (like this), but then found that I was in the quick reply box where there are no editing functions. I had some complaints today and I apologize to the people who took offense. As admin, I should set a proper example and this was a one-off and isn't the starting sign for a deterioration in civilization on this forum. So do as I say, not as I do..(or did, as it won't happen again).




RE: Apology - Palm - 12-01-2012

Hey, we all have our weak moments and those mofos can get to you at times. Apology not necessary. Besides we all know you felt a LOT better after you let it all out.


RE: Apology - sfiaes - 12-01-2012

Apology accepted.

It always pays to elevate your game.


RE: Apology - efi426hemi - 12-01-2012

Hi STP,

I have a few points I would like to make for those that were concerned about your "inappropriate language":

  • How many hours has STP volunteered to research IOC and share for FREE with the world?
  • How many dollars in the form of a website has STP paid to ensure the information that was researched was shared for FREE with the world?
  • How many personal attacks (real life death threats) from those with a short agenda has STP endured to ensure that the information that was researched was shared for FREE  with the world?
  • Where does it say that a website that is owned and paid for by a single individual (STP) has to restrict itself from rare outbursts of profanity (If you don't like it I would suggest you read another website)?

Seriously, whoever is upset with a single expression using the F-bomb needs to step back and look at the bigger picture to realize that they are getting a FREE service that firms like Morgan Stanley charge thousands of dollars for.  Perhaps, this single instance of "inappropriate language", the first in 11 months, should be overlooked???

With that all being said, STP you have shown your quality of character by offering this apology and I, for one, would like to take this opportunity to express my GRATITUDE for all that you have done regarding IOC.  Thank-you for taking the time.

Health and Happiness to you and yours,
Hemi
p.s.  This post is, by no means, an endorsement or encouragement for profanity.
p.s.s.  I am in the Rocky Mountains, about to embark on some skiing this weekend, and I must say that something about the mountains is a VERY humbling experience.  I hope that everyone has the opportunity to experience these amazing natural wonders one day.



RE: Apology - Spartina - 12-01-2012

I agree Hemi, and I will once again take the opportunity to thank both STP and you for this great discussion board. Even though I have been involved with IOC since almost the beginning, and I have tremendous faith in Phil and co. there are times when I get discouraged and start to question my conviction.

Because of this board and all of it's great contributors, it has helped me through those times and helped to keep me encouraged and stick to the strength of my convictions. So I will also take this opportunity to thank you all. Each and every one of you.
I hope you all have great holidays. As Hemi says, H & H.

P.s. Efi I have been to your country's beautiful rockies and had the privilege once of chopper skiing in the Gothics, yes very Humbling indeed.

P.s.s. There was a time when I dropped the F bomb back in spring when they hit the discovery at Elk and it appeared that Oneill was a shoe in for the election and I got so excited I couldn't help myself. I believe the f bomb is very effective word if three rules are followed.
#1 it is very seldom used, with adults
#2 it it is brilliantly timed
#3 you must clearly pronounce the "ing" at the end


RE: Apology - Palm - 12-01-2012

And besides STP, you were distressed and when that is the case the f-bomb can come in handy. We all hate the automated help centers we have to wade through some times strategic use of the f-bomb can get you to a live person.
"This is a very useful little tip from a Redditor: if you are lost somewhere in the menu hell of an automated telephone system a few well dropped profanities will lead to the almost immediate attention of a live human being. True, they may or may not be able to help you but then being able to swear at someone rather than something can still be terribly therapeutic I find.
After exploring every option possible in the machine based list, I eventually got frustrated and used a few choice words that triggered something in the computer I was talking to.
It cut itself off in mid-sentence, apologized, and in about 10 more seconds I was talking to an Apple tech.
I’m not sure this would do much good for me: not owning anything made by Apple I have little reason to call AppleCare. However, it seems that this isn’t limited to just this one company:
It turns out that the automated system that Apple uses (but isn’t limited to just this company) is programmed to listen for signs of distress. If that additional menu option is one too many and you unleash a volley of terse language down the phone, it will immediately connect you with a real person.
It’s said that there are two routes that a few choice Anglo-Saxonisms can send you down. To someone who can actually do something for you, which is obviously very jolly. Or off to someone whose job is simply to monitor the queues of phone calls. In which case you’ll just be switched back into the queue which would be less jolly when all’s said and done.
I have to admit though, my nasty little inquisitive mind wants to know quite what words it is that such systems are trained to recognise. “Sounds of distress” might be a euphemism or it might be the true description. In which case a recording of an air raid siren would do it. Or perhaps SOS in Morse code would. But I think that rather unlikely somehow. There is one Redditor who says that any nonsensical world will do: he uses banana.
Or we could even try to experiment our way through what the systems do regard as swearwords. Or sufficient trigger words for example. Possibly even map how they change over languages. Fanny, for example, just means gluteus maximus in American. In English English it’s a vulgarism for a much more intimately female part of the anatomy. The F-bomb is known everywhere in the English speaking world (and in much of it that isn’t English speaking too) but there are others that are much more ambivalent. I can think of one word which in parts of England means “crotchety person” in an almost approving manner while in other parts of the same country it means a frequently painful and sometimes illegal sexual act.
I also wonder about how it copes with other languages? Would a Russian system miss the standard English words but get the standard Russian phrase which ends in “your mother” (and is often abbreviated to just that alone)? And if this really does work in any language can someone please teach me how to swear in Portuguese? I’ve still not managed to download my voicemails in a decade of being on Portugal Telecom‘s system.
Perhaps I should add this experiment to things that are lunatic enough to work as a Kickstarter project. The compiling of a public database of those “sounds of distress” that will jump you through an automated system to a live operative. After all, the information will be useful: and we shouldn’t have any problem in recruiting volunteers to work through the richer and riper parts of the dictionaries on the customer care lines of each and every company out there."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/24/how-to-use-applecare-drop-the-f-bomb/

So, you are actually a pioneer once again. You've helped us all with this great site, and helped us deal with distress. You are more than forgiven.


RE: Apology - jft310 - 12-02-2012

Its frustrating this waiting. Just ask those here from the beginning. You and I date from 2005 and we still are here and it will be worthwhile but today its frustrating . So a few comments to vent are well just par for the course and needed. We wait.And it easier to wait with others that help support ya.So thanks for the Board and the time.


RE: Apology - kommonsents - 12-02-2012

Personally, I was not and am not offended by so-called profane words. I always taught my two sons, now late 30s and early 40s, that there are no such thing as "bad" words, only words that some people consider offensive and improper so always be aware of how you might choose to use such words and consider who you use them with so as not to offend. I doubt any here was offended.

I did not think STP's post was offensive and thought his use of words was appropriate, IMHO.

Being a recent member, I fully appreciate this forum and the input, opinions and banter that flows on a daily basis, it is a refreshing and valuable resource. Perhaps it should be expanded to cover additional investment possibilities. It sure is needed.

Thanks again, STP, and all you other members that make SHU so valuable, and let the words flow!

Bob


RE: Apology - Tusker - 12-02-2012

'admin' pid='13709' datel Wrote:

I used some inappropriate language yesterday, which is actually a bit out of character. I was actually meaning to cross it out (like this), but then found that I was in the quick reply box where there are no editing functions. I had some complaints today and I apologize to the people who took offense. As admin, I should set a proper example and this was a one-off and isn't the starting sign for a deterioration in civilization on this forum. So do as I say, not as I do..(or did, as it won't happen again).

No apology needed.

Does bring back to mind a story I was told by a very polite Lady in Charleston SC many years ago.

Two women were in a complementary exchage of words in a posh social gathering that went some what as follows;

... do you like this wonderful gown my husband bought for me, isn't beautiful?

That's nice, the other women replied.

.... he also bought me this safire ring, it just sparkles.

That's nice, the other women replied.

Oh, and he bought tickets for us both to fly to Hawaii next week.

How nice, the other women smiled.

So, tell me... what has your husband bought you?

The other women replied;

He bought me a lesson in edicate.... and I learned a lot.

Courious to know, the first women inquired... What did you learn?

I learned that instead of saying fuck you, I say how nice.

After what can be thought of as a long conversation, authenticity is refreshing.




RE: Apology - sageo - 12-02-2012

Hi to all - After reading all these replies, may I say that I am honoured to be in the company of such a B of B !! I say "ditto" (ghost) to you guy's posts.As I have often told  all our grandchildren when they enter a sporting event, you might lose a game once in a while,but that doesn't make you a loser . Because we repeatedly get hit by greedy and scurrilous men from wherever, persistence and patience should pay off at some future time. GLTY.