LNG 17 and Shell and EWC - jft310 - 04-23-2013
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LNG 17 in Houston - Shell
Last week's gathering in Houston - Shell's booth was plastered with proposals for Modular LNG plants, using the Chart Industries/Siemens technology. Does this remind you of something ??
Right !! EWC also uses the Chart/Siemens technology.
Shell has, therefore, validated this technology. Plants will take 18 to 24 months to build and will be a lot cheaper than onshore conventional plants. A revolution in building LNG plants.
Could it be that Shell now goes to the PNG government and proposes their modular technology which can go into production in 2016 (thereby following the government's wish) and now just needs to do a deal with IOC on the gas reserves.
What a thought.
Would Exxon want Shell as a neighbour ?
Or could it be that now that Shell has validated the EWC technology, that the PNG government will say to IOC just go ahead now, who needs Shell to build them.... They are out of Petromin now too
RE: LNG 17 and Shell and EWC - admin - 04-23-2013
Yes, well, we'll have to see about that. Interesting though is that the EWC solution, at least as I understood it, largely depended on parts off the shell, uuh shelve and there was always a little nagging voice saying that if EWC could do it and it's such a good idea, then why don't others do it (in fact, there are a few others, but it hasn't created an avalanche by any means yet). If Shell now seems interested.
It would be nice to hae Glen here as well, by the way..
RE: LNG 17 and Shell and EWC - jft310 - 04-23-2013
'admin' pid='21181' datel Wrote:Yes, well, we'll have to see about that. Interesting though is that the EWC solution, at least as I understood it, largely depended on parts off the shell, uuh shelve and there was always a little nagging voice saying that if EWC could do it and it's such a good idea, then why don't others do it (in fact, there are a few others, but it hasn't created an avalanche by any means yet). If Shell now seems interested. It would be nice to hae Glen here as well, by the way..
Agree on Glen.but don't know him and can't help , wish I could he has good ideas, smart man!
RE: LNG 17 and Shell and EWC - Tree - 04-23-2013
'admin' pid='21181' datel Wrote:Yes, well, we'll have to see about that. Interesting though is that the EWC solution, at least as I understood it, largely depended on parts off the shell, uuh shelve and there was always a little nagging voice saying that if EWC could do it and it's such a good idea, then why don't others do it (in fact, there are a few others, but it hasn't created an avalanche by any means yet). If Shell now seems interested. It would be nice to hae Glen here as well, by the way..
Rest assured, Shell is interested in mid scale LNG. Mid scale + hull = FLNG.
RDS defines mid scale LNG as 2Mtpa to 5Mtpa trains and have designed four distinct processes to cover the range.
This Mr.Gaeta sounds like a chip off the old EWC block, or more likely, EWC is copying mid scale LNG/power schemes of the Majors.
JP Meti blessed EWC scheme/technology as financable for JP LNG trading houses, utilities and investors.
http://www.smallandmidscalelngasia.com/
May 9-10 in Singapore.
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Robin Gaeta
Head of New Market Development
Shell Global LNG
Robin Gaeta currently heads up LNG New Market Development for Shell Global LNG in the Asia Pacific region based in Singapore. In this capacity, he is responsible for the development of new LNG market access opportunities including conventional regasification projects and small-scale LNG value chains. Before joining Shell, Robin led the development of several entrepreneurial ventures involving marine infrastructure and power generation primarily in Mexico. In 2002 he joined Shell where he focused on the development of power projects in Brazil, the expansion of the Bolivia to Brazil gas pipeline and an LNG regasification project with Petrobras. In 2003 he joined Shell Consumer and headed a start-up in the US called Shell HomeGenie which allowed homeowners to manage their homes and energy requirements remotely via the internet. In 2004 Robin moved to The Hague where he held several business development positions which included the development of greenfield LNG liquefaction projects in Africa and new LNG markets in Europe. Robin has been integrally involved in the development of Shell’s Mid-Small Scale LNG strategy. |
RE: LNG 17 and Shell and EWC - Palm - 04-23-2013
Shouldn't be a huge surprise. Shell had people at EWC's small and mid-scale LNG conference in Louisiana when the modules that are now in Indon were on display. The bigs may have at times scoffed at EWC, but they all knew it was the way of the future because of the fact that smaller fields are where the game is and the scaling makes sense. They just couldn't let EWC be the one to bring it in big-time. Just like there was no way IOC would beat XOM to production. It's not the way the game is played.
RE: LNG 17 and Shell and EWC - ArtM72 - 04-23-2013
Like Bonk and our friend Adam, Shell came up with anything they could to defame IOC back then. Henry knew then and most of us have known or are realizing it now, that mid and even small scale LNG can make economic sense, and the challenges of making things smaller in this business are not quite the same challenges seen by the like of Intel's chip fabrication. Smaller scale LNG challenges are more like Henry Ford producing cars. Better, more like building Liberty ships.
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