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Tokyo's LNG Price Intervention - Tree - 10-23-2013
It's times like these when I'm glad E/A gas has a negative gas cost and there is enough of it for 2 PNG LNG trains. I also like the fact that XOM's own gas is about $5/Mcf. P'Nyang and big bad Hides will cost more likely, that is why they haven't been tapped yet
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Tokyo's LNG intervention fuels losses, curbs projects: Woodside
October 23, 2013
RE: Tokyo's LNG Price Intervention - admin - 10-23-2013 ["I also like the fact that XOM's own gas is about $5/Mcf. P'Nyang and big bad Hides will cost more likely, that is why they haven't been tapped yet"] I'm far from an OilSearch expert, but isn't Hides part of LNG PNG? I remember Wayne, in that hidden interview, saying that E/A wells were twice as cheap and three times more productive, or something to that effect, but Hides is about as big as E/A. RE: Tokyo's LNG Price Intervention - Palm - 10-23-2013 So what must Japan do today knowing that (as we have seen several times) LNG prices will likely be in the $11-$13 range overall. They will not get US based shale produced and shipped for any type of "dream" $8 or something like that outside of another severe recession. Isn't going to happen. What is already happening is what we are seeing in PNG. A Japanese company has jumped in with Horizon and wants to move quickly. They will be a major player in that project most likely. Hession was very wise to end exclusivity as quickly as he did. The leverage IOC has right now is their resources. Exxon can play hardball to a point, but I don't think Hession and his team would think twice about negotiating from the point of saying we will not wait for a train 4 and some distant FID. If the Japanese are all over Horizon, they may well be at the table with IOC and an approved operator. No doubt IOC is in both a good spot but a tough one. One can only imagine all of the scenarios being tossed around, pressure being applied and games being played. It appears Hession and his team have the experience necessary to get a very good deal, but this industry is in a huge state of flux right now and it's interesting seeing what all is being said by buyers, sellers and investors. Japan's only option IMHO is to get aggressive in buying source, giving as much of the project work to Japanese contractors and securing as much of the LNG and liquids products to max their overall returns. PNG is one of the best places for them to do that. RE: Tokyo's LNG Price Intervention - Tree - 10-23-2013
'admin' pid='30103' datel Wrote:["I also like the fact that XOM's own gas is about $5/Mcf. P'Nyang and big bad Hides will cost more likely, that is why they haven't been tapped yet"] I'm far from an OilSearch expert, but isn't Hides part of LNG PNG? I remember Wayne, in that hidden interview, saying that E/A wells were twice as cheap and three times more productive, or something to that effect, but Hides is about as big as E/A.
Yes Admin, Hides is part of the PNG LNG Project JV. And it could be as big as E/A, that is not known yet. Hides is the cheapest route to expansion available in the PNG LNG project. Problem with Hides needs further drilling to determine upside and those Highlands wells are over $100,000,000 each and are some of the most expensive onshore wells in the world. XOM doesn't need several T's of even more expensive gas at this time. XOM's other current option is the remote P'Nyang which requires a long pipeline and expensive wells and is NOT part of the PNG LNG Project. XOM's best option is to feed PNG LNG with E/A gas it appears. They aren't negotiating to do so just because they like IOC so much.
RE: Tokyo's LNG Price Intervention - ArtM72 - 10-24-2013 Great article. Thanks once again, Tree. I am in firm agreement with Palm's comment: " No doubt IOC is in both a good spot but a tough one. One can only imagine all of the scenarios being tossed around, pressure being applied and games being played." There is little doubt in my mind Japan is in the mix today, recalling their agreements with PNG concerning the billion dollar methanol/DME plant development and O'Neil's assurance the Japanese would have access to over a TCF for that plant. Who knows? Maybe the location of that facility is being offered as a surrogate to Gulf LNG. We can only wait, see and speculate these days. |