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JPM: Bleak LNG Picture - Printable Version +- ShareholdersUnite Forums (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb) +-- Forum: Companies (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: InterOil Forum (http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Thread: JPM: Bleak LNG Picture (/showthread.php?tid=9182) |
JPM: Bleak LNG Picture - Tree - 10-07-2015 * Kogas, JERA freeze long-term purchases-note * Kogas to renegotiate deals with Qatar and Oman-note * New Australian LNG plants to see mid single-digit returns-note * Sellers to cave into buyer demands as supply grows-note (Adds JERA response on U.S. gas price-linked LNG purchases) By Oleg Vukmanovic MILAN, Oct 6 (Reuters) - U.S. investment bank JPMorgan Chase warned that new global gas price lows will demolish producer profits as top Asian consumers freeze big purchases and rework or ditch existing import deals. In a client note seen by Reuters, the bank spells out the changing strategies of the world's top liquefied natural gas (LNG) importers -- Japan's JERA and South Korea's Kogas -- emboldened by surging supply to demand concessions from producers facing a decade of pain. These include breaking away from oil-indexed LNG supply deals, which tend to be costly, and abolishing restrictions that currently bar buyers from diverting or re-selling cargoes. "Sellers may be forced to offer buyers contract offtake flexibility as demand growth slows, providing continued challenges to producer profitability especially those exposed to lower-tier buyers," JPM's head of Asia oil and gas equity research, Scott Darling, wrote in the Oct. 1 report. The note draws on 28 meetings between JPM and major Asian LNG players, including Kogas, JERA, Inpex and PetroChina, providing new insight into the buying strategies of major consumers. Rising supply worldwide has cut spot LNG prices by more than 60 percent since February 2014 as demand wanes and new production gets underway in Australia and the United States. Citing sources at the company, JPM says Kogas should avoid taking an impairment on its investment in two high-cost Australian LNG export projects -- Prelude and Gladstone -- so long as oil prices stay around $50/barrel. At current oil prices Kogas sees an internal rate of return on Gladstone at 6 percent and Prelude at 7-9 percent, JPM says. According to the note, both JERA, a joint venture between Tokyo Electric Power Co and Chubu Electric, and Kogas will not sign any new long-term import deals this decade. Kogas intends to renegotiate existing contracts with top exporter Qatar and Oman, which expire in the early 2020s, while JERA will wait for deals signed with Qatar after the Fukushima disaster to run down before agreeing new ones, the bank said. Kogas will also take advantage of expiring long-term deals to reduce exposure to oil-linked supply to half of its total LNG supply, pegging the rest to U.S. gas prices. Kogas said nothing has been decided regarding its LNG fuel purchase strategy. JERA said it is reviewing what long-term contracts it will sign and has not yet decided on the amount of U.S. gas price-linked LNG it intends to buy. In the note, JPM, citing JERA sources, said the firm plans to have 10 million tonnes/year of U.S. gas price-linked LNG by 2020. Kogas expects cheap coal to reduce South Korean LNG imports in 2016 and sees stagnant demand from 2017, JPM said, removing a key pillar of support to global gas prices. Spot LNG prices could drop below $6 per million British thermal units (mmBtu) next year, traders told the bank, compared with $6.60/mmBtu currently. (Additional reporting by Meeyoung Cho in Seoul and Aaron Sheldrick in Tokyo, editing by Louise Heavens and Susan Fenton) RE: JPM: Bleak LNG Picture - admin - 10-07-2015 Encouraged by the plunge in commodity prices, the world’s biggest buyers of LNG are demanding more say in negotiations with their suppliers. Two of the largest utilities in Japan, the world’s top purchaser of the fuel, said they will no longer sign contracts that restrict reselling cargoes by limiting the destination of shipments they buy. Customers elsewhere in Asia are pushing to break LNG’s price relationship with oil and to start regional trading and storage hubs. Buyers market for LNG turns tables on producers amid supply glut RE: JPM: Bleak LNG Picture - jft310 - 10-07-2015 There are distinct advantages of being a low cost provider . Especially if the bar is US gas . Compared to Gladstone and Prelude the Papua Plant prints money . Dec 2016 Henry Hub is $3.05 today .Cheniere Energy owns no gas buys at Henry Hub rate . Oil Search paid PACLNG 77 cents per MCF . Total appears to be on tract to pay Interoil $1 per MCF . Or Papua has a gas cost advantage of at least $2 per MCF . US gas costs @$3 to transport to say Japan vs Papua LNG at under 50 cents per MCF . Interoil states their cost is estimated to be under $7 per MCF . US gas has to land over $10 per MCF . The difference is over $3 extra profit per mmbtu delivered . Even at these prices see above the Austalian projects make money . Hession states at these prices Papua LNG had a 22 percent return on investment . Papua Project gets built and others will suffer lower margins . Not our problem . RE: JPM: Bleak LNG Picture - sydbod - 10-07-2015
'jft310' pid='63467' datel Wrote:........ Papua Project gets built and others will suffer lower margins . Not our problem . With a fixed demand and an increased supply the price continues to drop until supply and demand come into equilibrium. IE, some suppliers have to go out of business and production actually stop. The prices would have to drop so far until the marginal producers loose less money when not producing compared to the loss they make when producing ... it has nothing to do with break even point. Sunk cost does not come into it. I hope it does not become our problem, but it is still too early to be this optimistic right now as no one has a sufficient handle of the global market as it stands. RE: JPM: Bleak LNG Picture - admin - 10-07-2015 ["At current oil prices Kogas sees an internal rate of return on Gladstone at 6 percent and Prelude at 7-9 percent, JPM says."] This is actually good news, I thought the economics of these projects was way worse. On the other hand, it's also bad news as the deterrent to build new LNG plants is perhaps not as big. RE: JPM: Bleak LNG Picture - Putncalls - 10-08-2015 These prices do make LNG more attractive relative to coal. The Asian coal market is a LOT bigger than the LNG market. |