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Bloomberg-Oil Prices Could Stay low For A Decade - jft310 - 02-09-2016 LONDON (Bloomberg) -- Oil prices will stay low for as long as 10 years as Chinese economic growth slows and the U.S. shale industry acts as a cap on any rally, according to the world’s largest independent oil-trading house. "It’s hard to see a dramatic price increase," Vitol Group CEO Ian Taylor told Bloomberg in an interview, saying prices were likely to bounce around a band with a mid-point of $50/bbl for the next decade. "We really do imagine a band, and that band would probably naturally see a $40 to $60 type of band," he said." I can see that band lasting for five to ten years. I think it’s fundamentally different." The lower boundary would imply little price recovery from where Brent crude, the global price benchmark, trades at about $35/bbl. The upper limit would put prices back to the level of July 2015, when the oil industry was already taking measures to weather the crisis. The forecast, made as the oil trading community’s annual IP Week gathering starts in London on Monday, would mean oil-rich countries and the energy industry would face the longest stretch of low prices since the the 1986-1999 period, when crude mostly traded between $10 and $20/bbl. Recovery Vitol trades more than five MMbpd of crude and refined products -- enough to cover the needs of Germany, France and Spain together -- and its views are closely followed in the oil industry. Taylor, a 59-year-old trader-cum-executive who started his career at Royal Dutch Shell in the late 1970s, said he was unsure whether prices have already bottomed out, as supply continued to out-pace demand, leading to ever higher global stockpiles. However, he said that prices were likely to recover somewhat in the second half of the year, toward $45 to $50/bbl. For the foreseeable future, Taylor doubts the oil market would ever see the triple-digit prices that fattened the sovereign wealth funds of Middle East countries and propelled the valuations of companies such as Exxon Mobil Corp. and BP. "You have to believe that there is a possibility that you will not necessarily go back above $100, you know, ever," he said. The problem is that "there is so much more supply" while the global economy is more efficient in consuming crude. On top of that, Iran is returning to the market and growth in emerging markets, the biggest engine of oil demand, is slowing. "China has changed," he said. Market Oil prices plunged after the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries in November 2014 diverged from its traditional policy of adjusting supply to manage prices, announcing it would maintain output to defend its position in the market. The group formally dropped any production limits in December, boosting output and intensifying a price war against higher-cost producers including U.S. shale operations, the North Sea, Canada’s tar sands and deepwater discoveries in Brazil and Angola. Taylor said there could be an agreement between OPEC and non-OPEC countries like Russia to cut production. "It’s probably slightly against, 60-40 against, but it’s a real possibility," he said, While the price slump has hurt oil producers, independent traders such as Vitol and its competitors Trafigura Group Pte, Glencore Plc, Gunvor Group Ltd, Castleton Commodities International LLC and Mercuria Energy Group Ltd. are profiting from the increase in volatility. These companies also benefit from a market structure called contango -- where forward prices are higher than current costs. This allows traders to buy oil, store it in tanks and use derivatives to lock in a higher selling price for a later date. Taylor said that Vitol, which celebrates its 50th anniversary this year and is owned by its employees, would report net income in 2015 above the $1.35 billion it earned in 2014. However, he said the company wouldn’t match the record of nearly $2.3 billion of 2009. Taylor said that the company, which doesn’t publicly release its profit, planned to take write-downs in its exploration and productionbusiness and make provisions against customers defaulting on contracts. The company, formally based in Rotterdam, has its major trading floors in London, Geneva, Singapore RE: Bloomberg-Oil Prices Could Stay low For A Decade - Kaliboo - 02-10-2016 My comments from 37 years in industry FWIW. I think it's possible that prices could stay low for a while longer, because FINDING the fields to produce an over supply of oil and gas, is not and will not be the constraint for a long, long time. The technology to find and produce is too good. Also, supplying the capital to FUND projects, will not be a constraint that limits oil and gas supplies for a long, long time. It's an essential for daily life and national security. Of course there are limitless possible extraordinary global events which could change the whole equation any given day. But barring these extraordinary events there are two things I mentioned over a year ago that these sort of articles fail to note. 1 - Demand growth in a very low oil & gas price world is likely to surprise to the upside as did 2015. My guess is 2016 will exceed 2015 growth. That's not too difficult to realize. 2 - What people are completely missing is a collapse in the supply of people with the skills and experience to do this type of work. Of that there are strong factors that could make this more severe than ever. The huge baby boom generation which provided this supply has been exiting gradually, but now at a much accelerated pace. I'm a recent data point. In 3 years much of the rest will be out. It will get really interesting then. I suspect this this downturn will depress the global supply of engineers in almost all fields, note just PETE. But it will decimate the supply of geologists and geophysicists. Short of a major global economic downturn, oil will be rise well beyond $100. In the 1980's the baby boomers were maturing and trying to remain employed in the industry. A large demographic age gap followed his group due to several years of not hiring due to low prices. I witnessed a super major hiring a PETE graduate with only 6 months work experience at Schlumberger, and only averarge grades, sight unseen after one telephone interview. This was 3 years ago. Something much more extreme is in the making. A people bidding war is down the road. Timing of this? Again barring no extraordinary events, the two short term factors which will make this clearer are the ramp up of Iran and hints of further steepening of the demand curve. Each day of sustained lower prices is working to further inflate the size of the "people undersupply bubble. " Rig count and bankruptcies are lagging indicators. The rate of bubble growth is still in the flat region but will ratchet upward with each college semester and with each baby boomer walking out the door. A SWAG guess is 95% probability of $100+ oil within 3 years from today. Just my opinions. Happy Mardi Gras, Kaliboo
RE: Bloomberg-Oil Prices Could Stay low For A Decade - ArtM72 - 02-10-2016 Thanks for this reminder. RE: Bloomberg-Oil Prices Could Stay low For A Decade - Putncalls - 02-10-2016 I don't see 100$ given that the US can produce a LOT under 60$. US fracking technology is a game changer. 60ish is good for IOC. The motivation for finding a substitute for NG will be diminished. |