great thread. appreciate these posts with special kudos to resource. will any of you gentlemen be joining us Sunday evening in the woodlands?
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06-19-2013, 12:20 AM
'Resourcearb' pid='24459' datel Wrote: Can you expand on this as it goes against all that I believe ???? My understanding is that OSH,Santos and XOM each are approximately 1/3 partners in the exploration and the PNG LNG plant OSH is charged with the management of the exploration part of the partnership. XOM is charged with the management of the building and running of the LNG plant part of the partnership. Santos is just a silent partner. There are no decisions that a minority partner like XOM can take to disadvantage OSH @ Santos combined within the PNG LNG project.
I believe one has to take at face value that XOM is purchasing gas for the PNG LNG project and that XOM is just the face of the 3 major partners in the PNG LNG project.
If one looks at a picture of the PNG LNG project one will see that train 1 and 2 are bundled together within the site and an empty single area is set asside for train 3 and 4. I suspect that there is some sort of economig advantage to be gained by adding trains in pairs. I read it that P'nyang fields with additions from other gas will be one of the trains in 3 @ 4 while the gas purchased by XOM for the PNG LNG project will be used for the second of the 2 new trains.
06-19-2013, 01:24 AM
'Tree' pid='24463' datel Wrote: I don't think there will be an additional .8Ts needed for a power plant. Mitsubishi's methane to DME petro plant will use the 1.2Ts O'Neill mentioned and the DME produced will likely be used to substitute for diesel being used now. DME is seen a one of the nest clean fuels in poser production because when burned it gives off no particulates (soot). Mitsubishi is building a smiliar plant in Tobago. Question is whether EWC's gas-fired power plants burn DME or not. And if this 1.2Ts has been "mandated" by O'Neill it sure looks like that additional pipeline will be needed, and as long as you are building it, build it big. Then the possibilities are quite large.
06-19-2013, 06:43 AM
[/quote] I don't think there will be an additional .8Ts needed for a power plant. Mitsubishi's methane to DME petro plant will use the 1.2Ts O'Neill mentioned and the DME produced will likely be used to substitute for diesel being used now. DME is seen a one of the nest clean fuels in poser production because when burned it gives off no particulates (soot). Mitsubishi is building a smiliar plant in Tobago. Question is whether EWC's gas-fired power plants burn DME or not. [/quote] Palm - I have to think so long as you have natural gas you burn it in highly efficient combined cycle turbines, throwing out the old, inefficient, high maintenance diesels. Doesn't make a lot of sense to convert ng to DME just to burn it on site. Other than DME being a clean burning fuel, it has a boiling point of -11 deg F at atmospheric pressure. That means DME is a whole lot less expensive to transport and store as a liquid than LNG which is stored at somewhere around -260 deg F. | |
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