Robust discussion = OK
Getting personal = NOT OK
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Legal Nature of the Papua New Guinea Petroleum Arrangement
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05-11-2013, 10:00 AM
Yes, thank you Spartina, it's a real pity because it stains what is important stuff and what could be an excellent discussion. I hope the participants can restrain themselves a little in the future.
Robust discussion = OK Getting personal = NOT OK
05-11-2013, 10:44 AM
Perhaps, it comes down to patience. Patience lacking on the part of investors waiting on the results of the SD process and expressing too many doubts and whining a bit. Some call it being needy. Patience lacking on the part of the major contributors, who spend a lot of time on DD and then posting their findings, getting a bit tired of having to argue with those that do not do their DD in quite the same depth or with the same understanding. I see a lot of that here. Personally, I want to thank all those that do the research and DD and then post it for the benefit of the rest of us. They do a great service to us.
Petrovale dateline='<a href="tel:1368208603">1368208603</a>' Wrote: No worries, JFT. We're in touch with both IOC's management and external parties on a daily basis. We do this to advance our investments and to check the factual validity of investor opinions, such as those expressed on this board. As soon as the believes and opinions of one or two persons come to dominate the discussions, and different opinions are not tolerated or result in name calling, the utility of the forum is quickly reduced to zero. That's a real shame. admin dateline='<a href="tel:1368219223">1368219223</a>' Wrote: I would very much appreciate it if we can just discuss issues without making it personal. There is nothing to be gained, and a great deal to be lost by making things personal. Thanks.
STP, I agree with some that has been (but not everything) but one thing for sure is the petty bickering will quickly dissolve all the hard work put in to make this site credible and strong. If you have a question or concern post it without personal attacks. Tree has been a solid guy as has JFT. I don't always agree with them on every post (though I often do) but I consider them teamates on our IOC stance. Together we are stronger.
05-12-2013, 09:49 AM
Hemi-says this well "use or flush it"". Enough said
(05-11-2013, 01:33 AM)Tree Wrote:
I would like to thank Tree for furnishing the link http://www.paclii.org/cgi-bin/disp.pl/journals/MLJ/2003/6.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=application%20and%20for%20and%20pdl%20and%20png
to we, the ignorant masses. I have gone through it and picked out a few interesting parts for you to read.
At the risk of being scolded again, I will try to high light some of the interesting parts and give a couple of comments. The process of granting a PPL commences on application for or upon invitation by the Minister, for a PPL.[39] For the purpose of granting an exploration or a production licence, the earth’s surface is divided up into gratucular sections called-blocks, comprising five minutes longitudes and five minutes latitude.[40] An application for a PPL would be made in respect of not more than 60 blocks[41]and in special circumstances the minimum acreage could be increased to 200 blocks.[42] The conditions under which petroleum exploration and production will be undertaken are prescribed by legislation.[43] A PPL is granted for a term not exceeding 6 years[44]and renewable for a further term of 5 years but for a reduced area,[45] and is also subject to work and expenditure requirements.[46] Comment: This is where we are at present. We have had the first six years and we are now in the fifth year of the 5 year extension for a reduced area. A licence sets out the basic terms and conditions under which petroleum exploration will be undertaken.[47] Where petroleum discovery is made in a exploration acreage, a declaration would be made of a location, within the exploration acreage, of a petroleum discovery. [48] Subsequent to the declaration of a location, the oil company may apply for and be granted a further extension of the exploration licence for a further period of not more than 3 years.[49] Comment: Where a discovery has been made the license can be extended for a further 3 years. We had a discovery in PPL 238 and PPL237 (Elk/Antelope) and a further discovery in PPL237 at Triceratops. If I understand this correctly, we need a discovery in PPL 236 before March 2014 in order to qualify for a further 3 year extension. This could happen at Wahoo-1 if we make a discovery.
(b) Petroleum Retention Licence (PRL)
An exploration licensee may also exclusively apply for a Petroleum Retention Licence (retention licence) in respect of blocks within the exploration acreage in which petroleum is located.[57] This may be done within 2 years from the date on which the blocks were declared as a location.[58] A retention licence can be issued over "... a gas field or, a part of the gas field or, for better administration of petroleum activities." [59] The provision is designed primarily to allow holders of an exploration licence to retain and hold natural gas discoveries within the acreage pending commercial extraction of the same. However, provisions are also made for retention licence to be issued in respect of oil discoveries within the acreage "... for better administration of petroleum activities." The proviso creates scope for retention licences to be issued in respect of marginal oil fields where the reserves cannot be commercially produced.[60] That is, where a discovery is over a marginal field and it is not commercially viable to produce the petroleum discovered within the location, a retention licence may be issued over the respective blocks in the exploration acreage, which would allow the exploration licensee to retain the discovery pending further appraisal, further and additional discovery and commercial production of the petroleum discovered within the acreage.[61] A retention licence may be granted for 5 years[62]and may be extended for further terms of 5 years at each extension.[63] Accordingly, a retention licence can be further extended over number of 5 years extension periods before commercial production can be realised. It therefore allows a holder of an exploration licence to hold onto the acreage pending commercial production of the discovery.[64] Comment: According to the above, it appears that, once you have a PRL, it can be extended for several 5 year periods. I believe this will just apply to the area of the PRL and not to the entire PPL area.
C. Charecteristics of Petroleum Agreements
The PNG petroleum agreements deal with matters, which include State equity participation, foreign currency management, local business development and procurement of local goods and services. For the purpose of this paper, particular consideration is given to those provisions dealing with State equity participation. The State takes its share of the revenue from production and sale of petroleum, primarily from petroleum taxation computed and collected under the Income Tax Act,[71] petroleum royalty and from direct equity participation in the project. In computing the State’s share of the petroleum produced or the revenue derived from sale of petroleum produced within the acreage, and the oil companies’ share of the petroleum produced, the amount taken up by the State pursuant to the exercise of its rights to take equity participation in the petroleum project within a license area is regarded and treated by oil companies as the State’s share of the oil or revenue. Accordingly, the State equity participation policy regime is an important element of the State’s petroleum policy regime, and that which forms the core of the petroleum agreement.
The State in taking up equity in the project, through its Nominee, also becomes a joint venturer and a joint licensee of the Comment: Upon the granting of the PDL the State will owe IOC for 22.5% of the sunk costs for the drilling of wells, building roads etc in PRL 15 but these cost will be carried by IOC (or the operator and partners) and the costs will be recovered in the future from the State’s share of production.
Production Development License (PDL)
If significant petroleum discovery is made that can sustain commercial production, a PDL , which is the production licence, will be issued to the holder of the PPL.[65] The basic requirement of a PDL is fixed by legislation.[66] A PDL is issued to the holder of an exploration or retention licence for a period not exceeding 25 years, renewable for a term not exceeding 20 years.[67] Comment: So a PDL is good for at least (25 +20) 45 years. A PDL confers on the licensee the exclusive rights to explore for petroleum within the licence area, to produce petroleum within the licence area, to sell or otherwise disposed of petroleum so produced and to carry out such other works in the licence area as are necessary to conduct petroleum operations in accordance with the terms of the licence.[68] The works necessary to carry out petroleum operations include construction of flow lines and gathering lines, roads, bridges and other civil works, airports, seaports and related facilities.[69] Comment: In the case of a gas discovery (which can’t be barged down the river), I believe we will have to have the proper licenses for the pipelines and plants before we start construction and laying pipe.
Have a good day/weekend.
05-12-2013, 11:01 PM
Petrengr 1 -I for one,(and I firmly believe many others),can't thank you enough for your contributions and solid work concerning our investment in Interoil. Your due diligence and your valuable time are very much appreciated.( My wife says we should probably name one of our great-grandchildren after you!) I too was "scolded" when I simply stated the truth about one of our future pipelines several weeks ago, but I just decided to brush it off . (no "biggie"
'petrengr1' pid='22237' datel Wrote: All need to read Part B of the above linked report.
05-12-2013, 11:56 PM
This is a short talking point on yahoo the expiration of the 2009 agreement and Bonk's firm has a put spread on June-Dec to make a big deal about it. So its best to deflate the short ballon before it flys anywhere.At one time the shorts IOC had no NG if one listened to Eric and crew. Just nonsense. Further the Exxon project has the PNG govt paying its portion of the allowable buy in upfront and thats some type precedent today. We also know that the Japanese govt has stated they will fund the entire LNG project in exchange for offtake or a buy in. Source RJ Institutional Call. And we also have Shell in a written agreement with Petromin stating they will pre fund the govts interest upfront.
Phil M has always said money for the project was never an issue. The reasons for that should be obvious to all. Its wet NG guys and girls!!! The liquids are HUGE part of this story which many forget. IOC is supposed to keep all the liquids for themselves has been the story.Its 30,000 barrels a day of liquid production and IOC owns a refinery. And PRE paid $3.85 per mcf non discounted for time. That would be the govt buy in price if biught anything above the 22.5% which most think will not happen. Hint the govt doesn't have the money. This is the most compelling story in the Mid Cap space today I was told by a very large Portfolio Manager .As in Billions AUM. Also, the Law says IOC will have to carry the government's portion. But even if they do Collin has said at that (PDL granting) point IOC monetizes and can borrow against it. Law says carry is considered loan which means IOC can charge The State market rate interest. Collin has said that before too. So in the end the government usually decides to front load because they have more options and it's developer friendly. This is a reason the government tends to hold PDL grant until all is in order; it gives them time to negotiate their buy-in. We know both JAPEX and Shell have offered to provide the government's sunk costs. Very likely something government is making a requirement for this project as we know they are broke right now. IMHO this is one example of where the workings of the O&G Act are different than the letter of the law.
05-13-2013, 12:34 AM
Here also is info from the analysis paper on the "carry" language and how JVOAs come into play, which IOC has possibly already put in place since April.
"Fourthly, the State’s equity participation, as set out under the relevant petroleum agreements, is paid for under a carried interest arrangement. Under this arrangement, the pro rata amount on account of exploration, capital and operation expenditure is represented as a debt from the State to the oil companies. The debt is classified as a loan to the State from the oil companies, from the issuance of the production licence. The amount owed to the oil companies accrues interest at a commercial rate and the debt or the "deemed loan" is defrayed by the revenue earned from sale of "oil foregone" in favour of the oil companies during the period the liability remains outstanding. The financial arrangement under which the State pays for its participation in the project reflects features of a service contract and joint venture arrangement. However, the treatment of the title to petroleum produced under the PNG ’s petroleum arrangement is not analogous to the arrangements under the service contract arrangements[110] but is more aligned with the treatment of title to oil produced and owned under a joint venture agreement, where title to the petroleum passes at the wellhead upon production. The petroleum titles, under the PNG ’s petroleum arrangement rest with the oil companies, which are granted the same under the petroleum legislation. This is unlike the service contract arrangement or the production sharing contract where the petroleum title rest[5] with the state enterprise, and the oil company is engaged as a contractor and its services are paid for either in cash or from portion of the oil produced. Further, the State equity participation is carried by the oil companies and defrayed through the allocation of the State’s share of petroleum produced. This incident is consistent with that of a joint venture petroleum arrangement." Again, the State has traditionally not done the "carry" as they have borrowed/leveraged the sunk cost buy-in in other ways. They likely will do the same again, but if for some reason they don't want to or can't work things out, they can resort to the "carry". |
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