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[quote='Thylacine-2' pid='65237' dateline=' Wrote:Good luck, Gator. While wishing you the best, I think the board will be better without you.
Thy, I respect your input and see you as a very valued member of this site. However, I disagree with your post. If for no other reason, this site needs varied and sometimes opposing positions to keep it honest. If the goal of some is to bully those who strongly disagree with a opposing view so they leave we are left with only one opinion. That to me is dangerous. I do not think Gator is a negative in fact I think he is a positive. Gator, I will give a comment that I personally do not think represents you as a "pebble" all the time but in this case yes. I once heard the managing partner a multimillion dollar company (just prior to a multimillion dollar sale of the company ) refer to the #3 partner as being "a pebble in my shoe". When the #3 partner said "wow, that is not a overwhelming endorsement" the managing partner said "actually it is". When questioned further the managing partner said "sometimes the pebble is needed to tell you something is wrong". The pebble assisted in facilitating a sake that made all the partners a lot of money. There are CFOs on this board as well as other executives. The CFOs job is often to tell the CEO nice idea but you are off base. They are sometimes a "pebble". Who here would design a board of directors with all having the exact mindset, not me. Gator, I hope you reconsider and stay. I for one will find SHU losing its alanine if all those who think one way push/bully those of different opinions off the site. If those who desired to push Gator off succeed you have done no one here a true service.
Neither I nor anyone else that I know of had a "goal" to "bully" Gator for "strongly disagreeing with an opposing view". I think I have thoroughly explained my criticisms, which I assume you agree I have a right to strongly express as well, if you care to read them, and they were not personal attacks. Objectively expressing opposing views, and supporting them, is very different from engaging in a relentless distorted repetitive campaign against management, with no possible constructive purpose, about what has happened in the last two and a half years, admittedly to vent frustrations about the stock, without even properly considering and responding to rational disagreements opposing his "view", wasting the time of others as well and potentially creating unjustified negative uncertainty about the Company and stock that could hurt us all. I have not accused him of being short, but that is what shorts did to this Company for years, with little difference in results. I think Gator made some worthy contributions, and my preference was for him to change his approach and put behind what is irrelevant about the past and engage in objective constructive fact finding, analysis, and debate, rather than leave; but that is his choice, and I agree probably best without some change.
Discalimer Getit, this is my opinion (obviously)... The management team has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING positive for the pps in the past several years. To hear Sageo say he is looking at $79pps as a buyout being an acceptable out at this point is understandable on his part. At the same time it is utterly pathetic. To not hear more desention about management's lack or desire or at least inability to raise pps is pathetic. There is regular continual pumping about how great things will be in 2022 by several posters. Honestly, who gives a mules turd!! Most of us are in at almost double the current pps. This is a sorry and sad representation of management's care or concern for long term holders. That sucks, plane and simple. I am tired of the BS lines, I prefer action and moreover price appreciation. The former means little without the later, I prefer results not excuses. Now I guess I will wait for some to either think or post "well then sell and be done with it". My response, I was not in at $10 like many here so save your breath and typing. The lack of holding management accountable to the dismal pps and to those of us who have not sold short, not bought puts and have in fact held long term makes them (management) in some respects as bad a the shorts. MH should be ashamed of his pathetic depreciation of pps on his watch. I will give him this, he did under promise and over deliver....to the shorts!! If you don't like it maybe you are blinded by the light of the pink shirt. At this point I don't give a rats but about anything except making money. Management members are making money in salary while we lose our "pink" shirts.
I'm glad you took the time to let us know how badly you want the pps to go up, like everybody else; welcome to the club! There is no point in any real response to this useless exercise in public whining and venting of your understandable frustration and anger, especially given all the previous discussion of the facts and causes; and I guess you need to take it out on someone, regardless of how rational or justified.
PS: Have you not been paid salaries for your work? I think that's very normal, in fact generally necessary!
Getit, once again your passive aggressive comments come out. These comments are not surprising coming from you based on this and prior posts as well. Do most people feel MH gets a free pass? I know oil is down, I know oil stocks are down but I do not need to hear about a transformational deal from the new head Exec only to be down something like 66% from the time of the "transformational deal". However, I guess he was factual and correct in that statement. He transformed us from a company worth a fair amount years ago to much much less now. If I were the CEO or Board I would be in ashamed. But I may be different from them. I feel they owe us appreciation and they have delivered no appreciation. Fairly obvious to me. BTW, I do not expect or even hope to change your opinion, that is set in stone. However, look at my posts for the past several years. I gave PM and MH a lot of room. But when they did nothing to raise the pps over a fairly long interval then I need them to be accountable. Honestly, I don't care if we have 12Ts or 50Ts. If the pps does not appreciate the pps then it is all worthless. Frustrated, yes you bet and if you and others are not you need to get your head checked. 6 years an nothing of monetary value to show at this point. Maybe in 1 month or 5 months (doubt it) but still worthless today. I hope they read SHU and I hope MH reads this post. If he does, he needs to appreciate the value to shareholders. Otherwise he should be canned. MHO. Have a great day everyone and Gator please stop the passive aggressive comments.
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Talk about opinions "set in stone"! LOL!! MIght as well laugh as cry, I guess, neither will help.
Like I said, no point. I do see a brighter future on the horizon. In the meantime, I've been making some mostly elsewhere in the last year. Hope I don't miss out on the timing on this.