Total fully understanding the language of the SPA and a better feel than most for E/A size must know they face an unlimited payment to Exxon which surely in time compels them to bid . Prudent management dictates cap your risk . We shall see .
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10Ts Highly Unlikely at Certification
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07-25-2016, 09:49 PM
It's that wild card certification required under IOC's SPA to be transferred to the winner of the bidding that could be a big number . That number should include Ant S and an E/A asset that keeps refreshing itself (my language ) .
Total fully understanding the language of the SPA and a better feel than most for E/A size must know they face an unlimited payment to Exxon which surely in time compels them to bid . Prudent management dictates cap your risk . We shall see .
07-25-2016, 10:27 PM
Another approach. Using the OSH high appraisal you have 6.43 TCFE of raw gas. Per their announcement the high end stated for A7 is 2 TCFE. So that caps it at 8.43
07-25-2016, 11:36 PM
'Li'loilady' pid='74747' d Wrote: Li'l - My point for noting the two companies were told to use two different models was to suggest if OSH was directing one element of the certification they could be stipulating other elements of the certifications as well and thereby influencing the results ... putting their thumb on the scale. Thanks to the posting of Indoreservoir I have an initial understanding of the probablistic v deterministic approaches. It seems pretty clear one good reason for specifying the two different approaches be used is so that the two could not be compared. Rose in the article makes the point that the probablistic model is faster, less expensive and more informative. I'll let the industry argue that one out although it appears one methodology is winning. Here's a quote from the article which seems appropriate given the matter at hand and the two certification firms having been declared 'tainted'. ‘‘Probabilistic expression will not deter unethical behavior by estimators or executives any more than deterministic expression will. However, the pernicious lack of geotechnical accountability that pervades the entire proved reserves arena goes back to the fundamental flaw in determinism: that reserves estimators cannot be accountable because the accuracy of their estimates cannot be measured, which impedes their ability to improve their technical performance in estimating. This flaw infects and compromises the entire field of reserve estimating. No system will inhibit people who want to cheat. But the probabilistic method identifies those who consistently miss their estimates, and it enables dedicated professional estimators to document their track records " So why would OSH and IOC agree to specify two different approaches if not to cover their trail? And to my original point, what other elements of the certification were stipulated so as to influence the final numbers?
07-26-2016, 12:16 AM
Per Art: "So why would OSH and IOC agree to specify two different approaches if not to cover their trail?"
Perhaps to get an average between the two methods? One cancels out the other?
07-26-2016, 12:38 AM
'kommonsents' pid='74764' datel Wrote:Per Art: "So why would OSH and IOC agree to specify two different approaches if not to cover their trail?" Perhaps to get an average between the two methods? One cancels out the other? No. Read the Rose article linked by Indo. You can't compare results of the two methods other than by an average. If both were probablistic, which per Rose is the standard in the discovery part of the industry, you would have not only an average but a far more instructive P10 and P90 numbers indicating the uncertainty and range of possibilities. If both firms had P10s less than 10.2, and both firms had a history of accurate predictions we would have a lot more confidence in both estimates. By not disclosing the P10 and P90 of the one firm and giving us only averages just what do we have? An unnecessarily obfuscated result. Civelli got his secondary appraisal a year after first shipment for a very, very good reason. We all should now know why. IOC shareholders are being played by crooks, this deterministic/probablistic scam being only one more indication.
07-26-2016, 01:41 AM
'Stavros' pid='74746' datel Wrote:This CRAP Deal with XOM is only slightly better than the ROTTEN Deal proposed by OSH. It seems to me that almost all Retail Investor Schmucks who post on SHU were lining up to vote NO to the OSH Deal. These are yet more reasons why we should all vote NO to this CRAP deal with XOM.
Stavros, I think you are right ... I will vote my 220K votes no.
07-26-2016, 02:41 AM
I agree with Stavros also. I will vote my 88K shares no !!
07-26-2016, 03:36 AM
Did OSH include the long flow test and the multi darcy dolomite zone? MH was very upbeat about that.
07-26-2016, 05:29 AM
It's what they don't talk about. Did MH ever mention "water drive"?
07-26-2016, 09:40 AM
Simple vote no .
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