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THE DEAL II
#21
Itn-Basic accounting we need a debit and a credit. If Exxon is spending money to delineate the wells in PRL 15 as per the P/R then one needs to account for the money. That adds to the effective price per share
Your list does not account for the a major expense-drilling to now be paid for by Exxon vs IOC. That must be accounted for. Added to IOCs side of the ledger. Increases the effective price per mcf.
Further I was told there would be a pipeline expense which may be different than your explanation. Exxon would pay for the new pipe. Which also would change the effective price per share.
The ownership percentage of the LNG also effects the effective price per mcf.
The beauty will be in the details.
I was told "Best possible outcome"
You say to ignore these Exxon dollar expenditures and concessions but the analysts will not ignore them. They get added to IOC's efffective price per mcf.
Look at Art's reaction to your explanation.
Have a good day.
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#22

'ArtM72' pid='23935' datel Wrote:I know the one thing EVERYONE here agrees upon is that IOC needs to make a deal and that deal will enhance the value of IOC's other assets. But beyond all of the wonderful sounding bullet points listed above Exxon pays $1.10/mcf for gas off the top and gets its percentage of condensates as well? And only pays for its portion of the pipeline and CSP with all the existing wells and infrastructure thrown in by IOC as a sweetener? What am I missing or is this some very elegantly worded joke? If true, that is one hell of a deal for Exxon. Also, an important point to understand which seems to be missing from above, when LT is saying IOC is he saying IOC's partnership team which includes the government and Pac LNG or just IOC? If the former, IOC's take is significantly reduced, if the latter IOC's remaining interest in E/A becomes, as the attorneys say, de minimis. And what a deal for PNG! They get to buy up to 50% of the resource for the now established low low sale price of $1.10/mcf. Paraphrasing LT above, let me clarify the transaction. This would not be selling gas to Exxon, rather it would be buying a friend. Partnership my eye. It's more like giving someone your house so you can spend a night in their bedroom. To paraphrase another coined expression around here, 'use us, then flush'. Somebody, please, tell me where I'm wrong.

JFt, You are right we need to see what the press release says but I agree wholeheartedly with Art here. If we are going to discount this so much and not get any ownership in the plant it seems like we are giving a lot away here, especially if they get the condensates as well.

As many have commented here before Mobil made so much on the condensates in the early Qatar monetization the lng portion became a legitimate cash register for them and I believe almost 50% of all their margin came from this region. If IOC was going to follow a similar model and in essence "give" the gas away to focus on the condensates that would make slightly more sense, but ExxonMobil(with former Mobil legacy employees) know the dual value these hold.

I'm really at a loss, but I will reserve full judgement into the final decision is announced.

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#23
This is getting interesting. A room full of accountants has reared it's ugly head.

Time to get some popcorn.
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#24
I wouldn't really mind having no stake in the Exxon third train if this is temporary and we'll build our own plant in the Gulf pretty soon after, as in that case, the deal derisks, monetizes early, and provides funds for drilling and infrastructure.

However, if we're becoming just a gas supplier to Exxon for the foreseeable future, it's a bit of a different proposition. Better to sell LNG than gas in the ground, although even that depends on price, of course.
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#25
Assoc- If you realize this then IOC knows this. LNG revenue was part of what was being sold. We are taking out best stab at where we are at. Thinking this is the final situation may be off the mark. Wait for the research reports to explain the deal. A combination of what been said can easily be spot on. I think Itnvest is close but needs finese. Thats my guess . We have zero sources named just message board posts.
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#26
I will be the first to admit the information I have learned is simply the tip of the iceberg and there are many details to be discovered. They seem to be consistent with some press reports. It's goes without saying I'm not an IB nor involved in negotations. But I do feel extremely good about what little I have learned. And, I thought it important to pass along. This deal has evolved quite a bit over the last 2-4 years. It continues to evolve. I know some of these details are "different" versus some of your expectations. However, I am confident those who really do know what is going on feel very good about the deal structure. I also sense IOC wold like to have ownership in the 3rd train. But Exxon has partners who have contributed significantly to the infrastructure in place. These negotiations are complex and involve multiple parties.
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#27

'jft310' pid='23932' datel Wrote:qek-Great comments and I will add IOC mgt told me several times they need to get through this first deal first, close and sign it and then they can talk about IOC's plans to monetize what's left whatever that may be. I think thats EWC unless someone like a Total buys them out of an EWC plan.

I'll stay contrarian to the board here and go out on a limb and stick with something material being announced on IOC/XOM PR dot #3 "within the 60 days".

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#28

'ltinvest' pid='23947' datel Wrote:I will be the first to admit the information I have learned is simply the tip of the iceberg and there are many details to be discovered. They seem to be consistent with some press reports. It's goes without saying I'm not an IB nor involved in negotations. But I do feel extremely good about what little I have learned. And, I thought it important to pass along. This deal has evolved quite a bit over the last 2-4 years. It continues to evolve. I know some of these details are "different" versus some of your expectations. However, I am confident those who really do know what is going on feel very good about the deal structure. I also sense IOC wold like to have ownership in the 3rd train. But Exxon has partners who have contributed significantly to the infrastructure in place. These negotiations are complex and involve multiple parties.

Understood and appreciated, Itinvest.

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#29
30% of LNG plus $5b paid over a few years would do the trick...value wise.

Hope the PNG LNG JVOA has tie back provisions to help facilitate commercial issues related to bringing in a new field..as has been mentioned a tariff or something would need to be paid for the shared infrastructure, jetti, etc..
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#30
ltinvest,
One of the most informative, well thought out and logical posts I have read on the Exxon subject. Thank you, I appreciate it. This is the reason SHU was brought about.
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