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Very interesting, and very logical. Japan needs more gas because of the nuclear disaster, China needs more gas because of strong growth and choking cities, Korea needs more gas, etc.
Is it that strange that there would be a bidding war for Asia's best gasfield find of the last decades?
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10-23-2013, 11:05 PM
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Good guy that Mr Rogers. I think one of his relatives is on Hession's negotiating team.
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"Bidding war" sounds great, and it is a term that has been tossed around here aplenty for a long time. I believe this bidding war does exist, but the real question is what is that going to mean for IOC? Lately I've seen figures around $1/mcf used much on this board. Not long ago there were numbers much higher given by knowledgeable people on this board that came out to more like $3/mcf.
Now I realize the whole $/mcf valuation may be old fashioned these days as it now seems likely IOC will get ownership in the LNG plant and various infrastructure and drilling paid for, etc., but in some way the deal has to be valued. Will this bidding war really lead to the lofty valuations that many here believe IOC is entitled to? So "bidding war," sounds great, and of course a bidding war is supposed to mean there is a competitive environment from which the highest price can be gotten, but what we need to know is WHAT IS THAT PRICE?
So tell me we're getting a great price and I'm happy. A bidding war just means the price will be the best we could get, but does not guarantee the price is all that good.
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Gentleman,
Im going to play devils advocate here and say that I believe most longs believe there is a bidding war and I would be willing to bet behind closed doors even some shorts would admit the possibility. The problem is we have had more than one bidding war now that has been going on for years.
Now I understand we have a new CEO and I believe MH will get something done but I believe the market and even some large longs are now in a "Prove it" mentality which is why we are seeing the stock hover 20pts below where it was right before the XOM exclusivity was announced
I hope MH & Co can wrap a deal up this year bc I fear what will happen if this thing gets dragged on into next year
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10-23-2013, 11:30 PM
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Management has stated before that when any deals are done and announced the "unbundled" deal will be "bundled" to an equivalent /mcf price. So to take bits and pieces of what is being "heard" and try and "bundle" them at this point is pretty futile. Too many unknowns. We get what we get; may not be the top notch price but......
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If there is a "bidding war" going on, why is the stock price telling us that InterOil will be fortunate to make a so-so deal with Exxon ?!?!
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Bidding war? More like a chess game. Wars are typically much more public conflicts with bright flashes and booms, none of which we are seeing or hearing.
(I'm ignoring the personal and public tragedy as is always done when using this common metaphor ).