Through the Looking Glass
" We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad." said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
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" It's a poor sort of memory that only woks backwards "
Through the Looking Glass " We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad." said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." Alice's Adventures in Wonderland Grin
12-08-2015, 04:34 AM
Tree,
Which came first IOC's sell to TOT or IPI's sell to OSH? IOC sold their (and the IPI) stake to Total. The IPI investors said not so fast. We want to sell to OSH. OSH said, we want our 22% of the gas to go to Train 3 of PNG LNG. InterOil then transferred ownership of E/A into a separate whole owned subsidiary and sold it to Total. OSH filed suit because the dispute in the JVOA. To continue to blame the delay of certification solely on arbitration and OSH (Botten and Civelli) is wrong. Hession did not lock down the IPI stake before he sold. Furthermore, after arbitration was settled, InterOil still claimed certification payment by YE 2015. The very first time a delay was mentioned was June 2015 at the ASM because the test results were so good they estimated the field was much bigger and they wanted to be paid for every molecule of gas. Since then we have had two additional delays and neither have to do with arbitration.
"And maybe someday we will find , that it wasn't really wasted time"
12-08-2015, 04:39 AM
'Gator' pid='65143' datel Wrote:OSH owes IPI Resource base payment. >7 tcf would deliver higher returning LNG project (PNG LNG “look-alike&rdquo Ah ok thanks. When you mentioned "draft choice" I was thinking you were having a good time in an English pub, so I couldn't really immediately place that, my mistake...
12-08-2015, 05:07 AM
'Gator' pid='65043' datel Wrote:How have any of your 7000+ posts help? What are your motives? Are you a paid pumper or just blind to the fact that this has been an epic failure on the part of current management to do the one and only thing that matters to this company and shareholders: GET PAID FOR THE ASSETS! With you (and management) it’s always perfect and someone else’s fault when thing go wrong. The board of directors should find a new CEO that can complete the task, but they won’t because they get free stock for doing nothing. The longer it drags on, the more shares they will collect. Hession has become a multimillionaire over the past 2 years, while shareholders have the stock cut in half under his watch. The stock has underperformed its peers even in a bad energy sector. Why? Because they have not done the one thing that matters, get paid. Delay after delay is standard for Hession. Didn’t he have the same problem at Woodside? My motives are clear: I want a CEO that is help accountable. I have a fiduciary responsibility to my clients. My clients, my family and I have lost significant amounts of money and time waiting. Shareholders should be revolting against this company. Two years after this deal was announced, we still don’t know any of the two things that are vital to value this company: How much gas do we have, and when will we be paid for it? 'Gator' pid='65146' datel Wrote:Tree, Which came first IOC's sell to TOT or IPI's sell to OSH? IOC sold their (and the IPI) stake to Total. The IPI investors said not so fast. We want to sell to OSH. OSH said, we want our 22% of the gas to go to Train 3 of PNG LNG. InterOil then transferred ownership of E/A into a separate whole owned subsidiary and sold it to Total. OSH filed suit because the dispute in the JVOA. To continue to blame the delay of certification solely on arbitration and OSH (Botten and Civelli) is wrong. Hession did not lock down the IPI stake before he sold. Furthermore, after arbitration was settled, InterOil still claimed certification payment by YE 2015. The very first time a delay was mentioned was June 2015 at the ASM because the test results were so good they estimated the field was much bigger and they wanted to be paid for every molecule of gas. Since then we have had two additional delays and neither have to do with arbitration. I would be ok with the delay if Interoil came out with a definitive statement like, We can now be certain the low end gas estimate will come in at X and at a minimum the certification payment will be Y. Nobody can value the statements were looking for all of the molecules. The company as been analyzing the data for a long time, they better have some clue as the the amount of gas at this point or they need to be replaced by somebody who does.
FWIW, I agree with Tree on all this.
That includes the FACT that IOC did NOT sell any "IPI position" to Total. The interest intended to be sold to Total was completely owned by IOC. The intent was for IOC to then replace part of that interest sold out of its interest by purchasing the Pac LNG and IPI interests. When IOC was outbid by OSH for the Pac LNG/IPI interests, IOC and Total had to modify the agreement to reach the intended final result. The actual factual and legal details of the agreements matter. Furthermore, in addition to arbitration and JV partner status and gas usage issues, Gator continues to ignore the huge effect on the schedule of the problems with the rig at Ant 4, as if Hession had a much better rig standing by he could have used instead. They also had to give up on that rig and could not use it to satisfy any other drilling needs, but Ant 5 had already been completed in a fraction of the time with a capable rig. All that was after they had to give priority to the three exploration wells over appraisal to meet license requirements, with limited personnel and other resources. I don't think there is any way in hell Mulacek could have accomplished an equivalent PRL 15 deal and all that.
12-08-2015, 05:36 AM
'Tusker' pid='65145' datel Wrote:" It's a poor sort of memory that only woks backwards " Through the Looking Glass " We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad." said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." Alice's Adventures in Wonderland Smile Tusker - "You must be",said the Cat,"or you wouldn't have come here." (I am smiling) . Referring to "mad",it sounds very similar to what my remarkable wife said to me about 2 years ago in Dec.2013. Ha,ha. She may have said "have you lost your ever-lovin' mind? I can't remember exactly,but I can now equate it to "mad". Oh well,I'm not sure about mad, but as I said the other day" I'm just to doggone old and stubborn to get out now" . Hope that in spite of everthing ,you have a pleasant day .
(12-08-2015, 05:07 AM)kkozkkoz Wrote: IMHO, kkk, that is ridiculous, and no one in the industry could or would dare make those kinds of statements before all the data was in, or even before certification. There is no comparison between having "some clue as (to) the amount of gas", and having independent certifications of the resources.
12-08-2015, 06:51 AM
'ArtM72' pid='65133' datel Wrote: IMHO, Art, these comments are even more absurd. I have heard no information indicating Hession "put a bad rig on A4" knowing there was one much better available, and there were testing results from A4ST released on Nov 18. I am also confident there are correct "working hypotheses" between your claimed extremes, and there is no way "the resource payment appears as distant today as it appeared two years ago when the PSA (sic) was signed".
12-08-2015, 08:30 AM
'Gator' pid='65146' datel Wrote:Tree, Which came first IOC's sell to TOT or IPI's sell to OSH? IOC sold their (and the IPI) stake to Total. The IPI investors said not so fast. We want to sell to OSH. OSH said, we want our 22% of the gas to go to Train 3 of PNG LNG. InterOil then transferred ownership of E/A into a separate whole owned subsidiary and sold it to Total. OSH filed suit because the dispute in the JVOA. To continue to blame the delay of certification solely on arbitration and OSH (Botten and Civelli) is wrong. Hession did not lock down the IPI stake before he sold. Furthermore, after arbitration was settled, InterOil still claimed certification payment by YE 2015. The very first time a delay was mentioned was June 2015 at the ASM because the test results were so good they estimated the field was much bigger and they wanted to be paid for every molecule of gas. Since then we have had two additional delays and neither have to do with arbitration.
Here's the timeline Gator. Lawyer and Gov't approved all throughout. As of Dec. 5, 2013, TOT has been IOC's 'daddy' in all things PRL15, like it or not. IOC was no longer sovereign as there was a JVOA in place as of 3/28/14, the same day OSH filed the dispite. Your initial post in this thread was devoid of truth in context of the 15.5 months following Dec. 5, 2013. I've laid out a non-exhaustive clarity of timelines, understanding of definition of preemptive rights and the realities faced by IOC/TOT throughout the arbitration process which ended 10 mos. ago. If it fails to sink in, then oh well. Keep on ragging at Hession because 'you are a frustrated long' and surely the only one out here. SHU was conceived to keep IOC story factual and intellectually honest. SHU has become a whinerfest and feelings sounding board as many who have kept things accurate here with facts (without the additional incorrect editorial coment) have tired and become bored with that task and have stopped posting.
*December 5, 2013 *December 6, 2013
*February 27, 2014 InterOil Welcomes Oil Search as Partner In Major Gas Field
*March 26, 2014 InterOil Acquires Minority Interests in PRL15 (Not Pac Lng, 1.0536% from minor partners) *March 26, 2014 InterOil and Total Close Elk-Antelope Transaction
*March 28, 2014 Elk-Antelope Joint Venture Operating Agreement *February 10, 2015 Arbitration claims dismissed – Total declared a party to PRL 15 JVOA
12-08-2015, 10:23 AM
Could Hession or anyone at Interoil keep Civelli from cutting a deal with Oil Search ???Nope !!
It should be obvious nothing happened during the arbitration , time lost 13 plus months . Whose fault ???? Not Interoil . That should be obvious to everyone . So the starting point 2 years from the signing of the deal is correct but has a dead period , the arbitration , which literally changes the time partners were working on getting things done . Everyone should understand that . Beating on management about things they have no control over means that person has an agenda . Beating on the company every Friday has an agenda . Never forget we have an asset that keeps growing and it will be monetized . Based on Total's hiring plans for Papua LNG discussed in the Post Courier they are on board or why hire peeps??? If anyone thinks the current price of LNG isn't part of the monetization of the asset I have a beautiful bridge for you . Hint Hession and Interoil don't control the price of oil and LNG . With these lower prices Total continues to say 2021 first gas . Someone in Japan wants our gas and China should want our gas . Appears Botten may want our gas . How much ??? | ||||||
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