Largest shareholders

[Libtardius Maximus]

Something that dawned on me for quick research. According to MSN Money. I put the largest shareholder on bottom

Richard Chandler Corporation	7,288,011	563,071,730	15.1	7,288,011	09-30-12
Wells Capital Management Inc.	6,004,976	463,944,446	12.5	4,393,524	09-30-12
Capital Research Global Investors	5,718,245	441,791,609	11.9	5,718,245	09-30-12
Wells Fargo Advantage Small Cap Value Fund	4,453,100	344,046,506	9.2	4,453,100	09-30-12
Mulacek (Phil E)	3,859,748	330,548,819	8	5,417,815	07-16-12
Fidelity Management & Research Company	2,661,260	205,608,948	5.5	2,661,260	09-30-12
American Funds New World Fund	2,484,825	191,977,580	5.2	2,484,825	09-30-12
American Funds SMALLCAP World Fund	2,461,200	190,152,312	5.1	2,461,200	09-30-12

Richard Chandler Corporation	7,288,011	563,071,730	15.1	7,288,011	09-30-12
Wells Capital Management Inc.	6,004,976	463,944,446	12.5	4,393,524	09-30-12
Capital Research Global Investors	5,718,245	441,791,609	11.9	5,718,245	09-30-12
Wells Fargo Advantage Small Cap Value Fund	4,453,100	344,046,506	9.2	4,453,100	09-30-12
Mulacek (Phil E)	3,859,748	330,548,819	8	5,417,815	07-16-12
Fidelity Management & Research Company	2,661,260	205,608,948	5.5	2,661,260	09-30-12
American Funds New World Fund	2,484,825	191,977,580	5.2	2,484,825	09-30-12
American Funds SMALLCAP World Fund	2,461,200	190,152,312	5.1	2,461,200	09-30-12

Shorts 10,000,000

[Palm]

Problem with that is we have no clue how many or who makes up that short interest. That 10,000,00 is certainly not represented by one person/fund and can't be considered as the "largest shareholder".

[Libtardius Maximus]

Problem with that is we have no clue how many or who makes up that short interest. That 10,000,00 is certainly not represented by one person/fund and can't be considered as the "largest shareholder".

Of course not. But when you combine them it's higher than the largest holder providing clarity to the current pps.

[trans]

Problem with that is we have no clue how many or who makes up that short interest. That 10,000,00 is certainly not represented by one person/fund and can't be considered as the "largest shareholder".

tarules gave us the best answer so far.  His sources at fido say 2 big hedge funds comprise the bulk of ioc short interest.  Source knows because source loans stock to them.   Maybe ta can find out more info.  but this matches the trading back and forth between more than one short .  anyway, i give tarule's info credibiity.

[jft310]

Please riddle me why when IOC PPS dropped to $8-10 that we still had 6 million shares short.?????Is this just market maker games??Or is there a lot of naked shorting??

[trans]

it sure looks like algo trading to me. has certain repetitive rhythms time after time, machine type

[trans]

I believe they help buy it up to slight high point, then use that bought stock to help sell it back down again.

[trans]

Stock trades extremely thin, I suspect the shorts are pretty much the only ones trading ioc. short sales on the nasdaq and nyse jumped yest (form 30-40% to 57% , imo that they were shorting that bounce pretty hard. as such

[TxPm]

Here we go again....low volume then all of a sudden 100k shares traded& the stock falls 5%

[kommonsents]

I don't believe there are net 10,000,000 shares short.

How many are hedged with long positions? Circular trading doesn't show up in the reports of short positions which is where that 10,000,000 shares short comes from.

I have never bothered to try to calculate the amount of money involved in the options, but I am sure the shorts are using them to make additional profits as is the MM. It would be nice to have answers to all the above.