Chinese media got a few words from Lin

[maplell2002]

http://xw.qq.com/c/tech/20140708066555

Denied insider selling and other allegations from MW's latest article.

[avunculus]

i'm always wondering why there are so many hostile Chinese comments at the end of an NQ news report.

[kevinh]

i'm always wondering why there are so many hostile Chinese comments at the end of an NQ news report.

NQ's antivirus software has a reputation in China as a 流氓软件, which roughly translates as hoodlum software. The story is their antivirus use to automatically install onto phones and automatically bills you 10RMBs. People who got swindled are generally lower on the economic ladder (people with money all used iphones) where 10RMB is actual money and tend to shout the loudest on the internet. Clearly that's not the case anymore but reputations are hard to shake.

[admin]

i'm always wondering why there are so many hostile Chinese comments at the end of an NQ news report.

NQ's antivirus software has a reputation in China as a 流氓软件, which roughly translates as hoodlum software. The story is their antivirus use to automatically install onto phones and automatically bills you 10RMBs. People who got swindled are generally lower on the economic ladder (people with money all used iphones) where 10RMB is actual money and tend to shout the loudest on the internet. Clearly that's not the case anymore but reputations are hard to shake.

Has there actually ever been any proof of any wrongdoing on the part of NQ in this respect, Kevin, or is it just that, an old rumor?

[kevinh]

i'm always wondering why there are so many hostile Chinese comments at the end of an NQ news report.

NQ's antivirus software has a reputation in China as a 流氓软件, which roughly translates as hoodlum software. The story is their antivirus use to automatically install onto phones and automatically bills you 10RMBs. People who got swindled are generally lower on the economic ladder (people with money all used iphones) where 10RMB is actual money and tend to shout the loudest on the internet. Clearly that's not the case anymore but reputations are hard to shake.

Has there actually ever been any proof of any wrongdoing on the part of NQ in this respect, Kevin, or is it just that, an old rumor?

This is from conversations with my coworker (he has been using Iphone since it first came out, so he has no direct experience with NQ antivirus) from our Chinese office, who comes to our US office every 3 months. He works in Jiangsu Province and people in his team told him of how NQ software used to do this back in the day. I doubt they have any incentive to malign NQ considering these are 20-25 year olds out of college, working for the first time. I don't doubt the veracity of this but you guys are welcome to debate about whether this actually happened.

As for 315 exposing NQ for installing backdoor viruses, he says it's most likely fabricated. 315 is known to get paid by companies to attack competitors.

[admin]

["I doubt they have any incentive to malign NQ considering these are 20-25 year olds out of college, working for the first time. I don't doubt the veracity of this but you guys are welcome to debate about whether this actually happened"]

They might just simply repeat an urban legend, which is something that happens all the time.

NQ's security software has been through some rigorous testing and this never revealed anything of the kind.

[BillNeuburger]

["I doubt they have any incentive to malign NQ considering these are 20-25 year olds out of college, working for the first time. I don't doubt the veracity of this but you guys are welcome to debate about whether this actually happened"]

They might just simply repeat an urban legend, which is something that happens all the time.

NQ's security software has been through some rigorous testing and this never revealed anything of the kind.

It's likely that as early stage entrepreneurs they did a few things to earn revenue, and those things have gone on to plague their reputations. I personally believe this, but I don't have facts, just how I think about entrepreneurship at times.

[kevinh]

["I doubt they have any incentive to malign NQ considering these are 20-25 year olds out of college, working for the first time. I don't doubt the veracity of this but you guys are welcome to debate about whether this actually happened"]

They might just simply repeat an urban legend, which is something that happens all the time.

NQ's security software has been through some rigorous testing and this never revealed anything of the kind.

The guys that told him this were reciting personal experience, i.e. this actually happend to them. This was how NQ used to do their business back when their software first hit the market, and clearly is not the case anymore. No way would Samsung or China Mobile preload NQ software with backend hacks even if NQ paid them $100/phone.

But once you have a poor reputation, it's hard to shake, hence why every NQ article has a ton of negative comments.

[BillNeuburger]

Just more of a necessity to go private and restructure their image. There is no other solution to this story.

[avunculus]

Thanks Kevin. Whether that used to be the case, I can't tell. But I am sure that is not the case now. It is hard for NQ to shake off this image, though. Many Chinese seem unreasonable to me. Or they don't have better things to do on the internet. Sometimes I wonder whether they get paid to write such comments.

NQ's antivirus software has a reputation in China as a 流氓软件, which roughly translates as hoodlum software. The story is their antivirus use to automatically install onto phones and automatically bills you 10RMBs. People who got swindled are generally lower on the economic ladder (people with money all used iphones) where 10RMB is actual money and tend to shout the loudest on the internet. Clearly that's not the case anymore but reputations are hard to shake.