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OPINIONS UPDATE FROM AN ENGINEER
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Beautiful day where I am.  Thought I'd collect some thoughts and share with this board.  As always use or flush (as someone brilliantly coined the phrase).  This is the view from the 36 year experience oilfield engineer.

Oil Price Outlook: My view in the last 2 months is the same as I first commented, only further convicted.  Crude prices in the US could momentarily drop below $30 and this could happen several times.  Reportedly US storage space is about to reach capacity in the next few months.  Without ability to export much, producers will have to sell or shut-in, rather than produce and sell or store.  Unless the Feds act soon, that could drive a big domestic price crash.  But even if they do, the global price could also fall as much.  Many companies have dropped a lot of rigs.  But for onshore what they have done is drilled and cased the wells but NOT completed them.  These horzontal wells (many in the range of a mile long horizontal) are simply waiting to be completed, which in most cases does not require a drilling rig and takes just a few days, but due to the ~30 separate frac treatments per well, can account for 60% of total well cost.  So to put these wells on production is like switching on a light switch.  Production can rapidly ramp up if prices are there, without rehiring drilling rigs for quite a while.  Some companies have moved remaining drilling rigs to gas prospects where they can get better pricing in some locales and lower drilling costs.  So all of this makes the USA the "swing producer", not Saudi Arabia, which is why they are trying to snuff us out.  So this fact means for the short term, prices will be volatile, as we have seen, but trending downward as supply continues to increase faster than demand.  The really big factor that will cause prices to rise very high and stay high for a much longer time is the availability of skilled oilfield workers.  This is a light switch right now, meaning industry can ramp up quickly by simply rehiring all the laid off workers, but before long, they won't be available due to re-employment elsewhere, retirement/death, and lower enrollments in the most relevant sciences & engineering.  This is exactly what has happened before.  It takes time - years of suppressed prices to gradually reduce the skilled workforce, especially the professional engineering and geosciences guys.  So availability of skilled labor will eventually become the controlling factor affecting prices unless demand rises soon and/or there is some "agreement" globally to reduce supply more aggressively.  The shortage of skilled labor coupled with continually growing world demand may send prices skyrocketing well beyond $100, keeping them there for a few years, until outrageous salaries and signing bonuses re-stimulate growth in graduations in the key technical fields.  So this outlook I have is unchanged.

Demand is of course a blacker box.  The shorter term bright light there could be India, who reportedly has the fastest growing economy in the world.  If their faster growing demand can outpace the global economic downturn and slower growing demand in China and elsewhere, then the a supply/demand balance has a chance to be restored.  Maybe the blackest box of all is the Middle East.  Reportedly Libya, whose production had peaked recently, is now down again due to the Islamic insanity causing chaos in much of that region.  I think this instability is likely to worsen, and could become another "swing effect" driving down supply.  This more complex economic system, where the USA is no longer the dominant swing consumer, but instead the swing producer, makes accurate predicting, an increasingly unlike result (especially "about the future" as Yogi Berra would say). So I spend time trying to to watch and undestand if we are going to shift to the long term high price scenario, as that is the direction we are headed as long as layoffs continue to occur.  Of course once we shift to that 100+ price world, if the price gets too high and hangs there too long, then a lot of negative fallout could follow.  It takes 4-5 years (5 for two of my kids) to get a PETE degree.  Then another 5 years of experience to develop enough competence to be able to make a serious contribution.  So you can begin to picture a very long term, high price world to follow which will be directly related to the length of time prices stay down.

IOC PPS Outlook: This board amazes me as to the depth of detail you have in analysis and opinions.  Mine are higher level observations since I don't have the time for more depth.  But nevertheless, here's what I see.  Hession, true to his word, is delivering, but much slower (which means more costly), than I want and only offers vague updates.  Nothing new there.  But as many of you have stated, this is all going to come foreward.  I believe that there are large volumes in E/A and elsewhere in IOC's PNG holding to be developed and have no doubt it will eventually.  Hession has the best approach for E/A with the near term and later term recertification rights which can add tremendous additional value to IOC.  So the uncertainties regarding the resource side of this and the vehicle to get it to market (i.e., Total and an future LNG plant) are dramatically de-risked from even a year ago, and those residual risks will mostly vanish by around year end.  From there on it's a question of time, cost, product prices, and politics (both PNG and global).  Cost is driven by market timing/negotiating, competency (where IOC has lagged poorly), and God's structure of these reservoirs.  The latter one of these will determine how many wells and lengthy flowlines will be required to drain the reserves, and in almost every field, this is a learning process over time as the field is produced.  The appraisal wells will remove a big part of this risk, but there will be a large residual remaining which will mostly affect the upside outcome.  The timing it takes to deliver an LNG plant and additional wells, will become much more predicatble as we go foreward.  But until contracts for construction and gas sales are announced, the revenue/cost predictions needed to project future value accurately, still IMHO have high uncertainty.  My thinking is that the volumes and location in PNG, that IOC has control over, can override a lot of these concerns and risks by making them a lowest cost global producer, as several of you have suggested.  But I suspect at some point the politicians will exploit that situation with higher taxes or other schemes designed to take value away from the companies and transfer it to the government and/or people of PNG, which seems to be an eventual certainty.  It's just a question of when and how much.  Witness Indonesia's government intervention in the copper industry, violating prior agreements, forcing processing of the ore in country, which up to now has been done elsewhere.  By having to build these plants in country and process the ore there, huge costs have been imposed on the operating companies in order to create more economic prosperity for Indonesians.  This is just what governments do.  Remember the Windfall Profits Tax applied to crude oil produced here in the USA in the 1970/80's? Assuming that IOC/TOT/OSH will be hugely successful in PNG, then it will happen in some shape or form eventually.  But I think that could be 10+ years off; not a worry now.

Another prediction I have is a global LNG glut is coming.  It's inevitable just like oil gluts are inevitable.  It's just a question of when.  Prices have already dropped, in part due to the linkage with crude, causing many LNG projects to be cancelled.  Technology is too good and getting better at producing oversupplies of everything on earth.  The nice thing about PNG as everyone keeps saying, is that LNG produced there is likely to be the lowest cost LNG at least for the Asian market.  So that threat, as it grows, may actually help IOC ultimately, by reducing new development in more costly places, and thus reducing supplies.  I.e., exactly as the Saudi's are hoping for crude oil right now.  So PNG could become a swing producer somewhere down the road and greatly capitalize when LNG prices climb back upward.  But for me, this is not a big factor now in considering the value of IOC, but definitely something to keep an eye on.

So in summary, from my viewpoint the picture looks much improved for IOC pps.  Much uncertainty is derisked and more will be derisked in this year, in addition to the payments and announcements, which should help PPS.  The current low PPS is out of balance with the current realities.  I think fear of where oil prices are headed are driving much of that.  If we were still in an $80+ oil price world, I have no doubt the PPS would be a whole lot higher.  Market conditions for LNG, costs (especially around the number of wells required per TCF), and politics are the big needle movers I will focus on going foward in addition to crude prices.  The gas volumes in place are there, and estimates are only going up from here for many years to come, I feel fairly confident of that, based on drilling results today and current leases.    So my investment outlook?  I hope oil prices drag IOC down below ~40 again before Concept Selection announcement and/or recertification payment and/or FID, and then buy IOC.   And if it stays down long enough, my company just might once again have a nice staff reduction, with a lucrative severance package.  I think the probability of both of those events occurring this year or next is far from zero.smiley

Have a nice weekend.

Kaliboo

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Every one has opinions but smart money follows the money trail . The money trail measured in Billions is available for all to see on the CME oil future price boards . Their is contango in oil future prices which has never been this bad before . Contango is tbe difference in current prices and future prices . Billions are being spent on a rise in oil prices on the CME . As are the largest oil traders buying oil and storing it for future delivery . Your the guy who sold at $37 I waited and added your shares to my portfolios at $34 . Please advise if you have bought back and further please advise when you sell again. So far based on your posts you are the perfect contrary indicator .
LNG is far from an over supply say the experts many of the proposed plants will never get built say the experts who know more it should be clear than advise from arm chair opinion givers. Listen to those in the business who still make their living in the LNG business vs those with zero experience in the LNG business . Just the way I see it based on multiple interviews with real hands on experts.
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'jft310' pid='55503' datel Wrote:So far based on your posts you are the perfect contrary indicator.

You too...

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Arthur Hanau described the pork cyclus. Also in oil industry investments are made when prices are high despite the fact that there is no certainty about prices in the future. For this reason it is important to be qualified as a cheap onshore project.
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(03-01-2015, 07:43 AM)jft310 Wrote: Every one has opinions but smart money follows the money trail . The money trail measured in Billions is available for all to see on the CME oil future price boards . Their is contango in oil future prices which has never been this bad before . Contango is tbe difference in current prices and future prices . Billions are being spent on a rise in oil prices on the CME . As are the largest oil traders buying oil and storing it for future delivery . Your the guy who sold at $37 I waited and added your shares to my portfolios at $34 . Please advise if you have bought back and further please advise when you sell again. So far based on your posts you are the perfect contrary indicator . LNG is far from an over supply say the experts many of the proposed plants will never get built say the experts who know more it should be clear than advise from arm chair opinion givers. Listen to those in the business who still make their living in the LNG business vs those with zero experience in the LNG business . Just the way I see it based on multiple interviews with real hands on experts.

Ok.  Thanks for sharing again.  This is similar to your last response when I posted an outlook.

Are you saying that you have inside contacts that have tracked me down and are givng you what you believe to be my personal investment information????Wow!   Then why do I need to tell you when I make any future transactions?  You should know that as well, right?

I'm just playing along with what sounds like a less then friendly response.  I don't have any unfriendly things to say.  I just like to share.  I guess you are saying engineers need not comment on this board.  Is that how everyone feels?  OK.

 This aging engineer recalls the "smart money" is occasionally wrong in a very big fashion.  Like all the "smart money" that missed the housing bubble preceedign the great recession and like all the "smart money" that predicted and bet on interest rates rising in 2014, when instead exactly the opposite happened, and lastly, like the "smart money" that made large investments and didn't see this oil price collapse coming.  Which ones are the contrary indicators there?

As Buffet says, when everyone is greedy, be afraid and when everyone is afraid, it's time to be greedy.  I think the "everyone" he's referring to is the masses, by many pundits referred to the lead guys as "the smart money".  Maybe not always, but often enough.  From what I've seen, the true "smart money" is often literally a handful of people in the entire country who see what is coming and often are disparaged by the multitudes of financial people who think they know better.  I'm not saying I'm the real "smart money".  We all aspire to that and that's the objective and purpose of this board....or at least I thought so.  I'm just giving people insight from someone who did see this oil glut coming long before many and who has lived through several other oil industry downturns up close.  I'm an insider working in the oil industry, not an outsider that is claiming he talks to a lot of insiders.  Insiders don't always tell outsiders the full picture for various reasons and also outsiders sometimes don't listen to them or understand what insiders are saying.

There are many credible experts who believe oil is headed further down.  Anything can happen with oil prices as there are too many major variables that can change very quickly and cannot be predicted.   FWIW.

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Thanks for sharing your overview, Kal.

for our cause
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'Kaliboo' pid='55506' datel Wrote:

'jft310' pid='55503' datel Wrote:Every one has opinions but smart money follows the money trail . The money trail measured in Billions is available for all to see on the CME oil future price boards . Their is contango in oil future prices which has never been this bad before . Contango is tbe difference in current prices and future prices . Billions are being spent on a rise in oil prices on the CME . As are the largest oil traders buying oil and storing it for future delivery . Your the guy who sold at $37 I waited and added your shares to my portfolios at $34 . Please advise if you have bought back and further please advise when you sell again. So far based on your posts you are the perfect contrary indicator . LNG is far from an over supply say the experts many of the proposed plants will never get built say the experts who know more it should be clear than advise from arm chair opinion givers. Listen to those in the business who still make their living in the LNG business vs those with zero experience in the LNG business . Just the way I see it based on multiple interviews with real hands on experts.

Ok.  Thanks for sharing again.  This is similar to your last response when I posted an outlook.

Are you saying that you have inside contacts that have tracked me down and are givng you what you believe to be my personal investment information????Wow!   Then why do I need to tell you when I make any future transactions?  You should know that as well, right?

I'm just playing along with what sounds like a less then friendly response.  I don't have any unfriendly things to say.  I just like to share.  I guess you are saying engineers need not comment on this board.  Is that how everyone feels?  OK.

 This aging engineer recalls the "smart money" is occasionally wrong in a very big fashion.  Like all the "smart money" that missed the housing bubble preceedign the great recession and like all the "smart money" that predicted and bet on interest rates rising in 2014, when instead exactly the opposite happened, and lastly, like the "smart money" that made large investments and didn't see this oil price collapse coming.  Which ones are the contrary indicators there?

As Buffet says, when everyone is greedy, be afraid and when everyone is afraid, it's time to be greedy.  I think the "everyone" he's referring to is the masses, by many pundits referred to the lead guys as "the smart money".  Maybe not always, but often enough.  From what I've seen, the true "smart money" is often literally a handful of people in the entire country who see what is coming and often are disparaged by the multitudes of financial people who think they know better.  I'm not saying I'm the real "smart money".  We all aspire to that and that's the objective and purpose of this board....or at least I thought so.  I'm just giving people insight from someone who did see this oil glut coming long before many and who has lived through several other oil industry downturns up close.  I'm an insider working in the oil industry, not an outsider that is claiming he talks to a lot of insiders.  Insiders don't always tell outsiders the full picture for various reasons and also outsiders sometimes don't listen to them or understand what insiders are saying.

There are many credible experts who believe oil is headed further down.  Anything can happen with oil prices as there are too many major variables that can change very quickly and cannot be predicted.   FWIW.

Thank you for your analyses, Kal.  I, for one, appreciate it.  It never hurts to learn of the thoughts of others in the industry on past, present and future of the industry and an analysis of current events.  Well done!

I much prefer to read thoughtful contributions like yours, Kal, than the constant Pied Piper posts of some here or the dire predictions of the future by others, or the seemingly increasing personal attacks of others here.

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The aggregate of the oil experts is not what they say but what they do . The CME numbers are the net numbers of where people are placing real money bets vs talk. It's literally Billions of dollars of bets . Most levered at high ratios . Just go out in time and see where not the talk but real money is being bet . It's one thing to talk a price and quite another to make big bets with real money .
Further several articles have been posted where very large oil traders are paying $40k a day to store oil because they are betting real money prices rise . Short term who knows their bets are for later this year . The longer term is what matters and even at these prices the Interoil project is viable .
Oil production depletes 7 percent a year and to stay even that needs to be replaced plus grown to support increased world wide demand increases . Arun is now an importer vs an exporter and all those Australian projects will not get built . Most would think someone who spends 8 hours a day in tbe LNG business would know more than an oil engineer . Those LNG experts are quoted in the analysts reports and some of their work is posted on the IOC slides .
It's like those who said E/A didn't have 10 T's was pockets of gas not connected . Then we had a 30 year veteran of the oil and gas industry at the highest level not an engineer who stated E/A had 12-16 T's on a recorded video . Whose nailed that one in 2009 .? Henry Aldorf. May take Ant South to get there but he was right .
Because of the economics this gas will be monetized anyone saying differently has an agenda . What that agenda is may be a very fair question.
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Petro you should be invested in Interoil for the asset and it's monetization. If you bought at the wrong price paid to much there are solutions for that . No one on this board put a gun to your head to buy at whatever price .
This is a world class asset that has Super Majors playing dirty games behind the scenes .
The delays are over we have an operator named and a HUGE payment to come .
If Somare had survived maybe ?? We would have been monetized years ago maybe???. Like OSH little Interoil has had to try several paths to monetization. This one because of Total and it's financial strength and LNG experience will work .
Blaming others for the changing monetization paths shows a lack of reading of other PNG oil companies . Buying stock at to high of a price was a personal decision not a group decision.
Phil's misspeaks burned many of us but some solved the problem and other complain .
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Kaliboo. The thing I disagree with is the idea that storage levels in the US are about to reach capacity. At Cushing all storage is leased, but there still is available space...a good bit of it in fact. The space is leased because of the contango situation in the futures strip. This allows buyers to buy spot oil and sell it forward at a price high enough to pay for storage and make a profit...without risk. Some who have leased storage space are just looking to sublease at a higher price. This will continue as long as the market will justify it. Another factor that leads me to believe oil prices are unlikely to plummet into the $30's is the increase in demand in the US. Look at the weekly product demand number...more gasoline, diesel and jet fuel are being burned. In fact demand is up enough to consume over 500,000 more bpd than last year. That ain't hay. Anyway I appreciate the effort you put into posting your thoughts and I respect the experience behind them.
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