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Consumers shutting down as US economy deflates
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Some mounting not-so-good signs for US economy.


Consumers shutting down as US economy deflates




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Santelli & Art Cashin get real on the Fed

The math is pretty simple: A lack of purchasing power for consumers has led to a lack of pricing power for companies.

When it comes to the U.S. economy big-picture outlook, the ramifications are more complicated, and not particularly pleasant.

Wednesday's producer price index reading, showing a monthly decline of 0.5 percent, demonstrates a larger problem: At a time when policymakers are hoping to generate the kind of inflation that would indicate strong growth, the reality is that deflation is looming as the larger threat. Declining prices often would be treated as a net positive by consumers, but income weakness is offsetting the effects.

Even Wall Street is feeling the heat. Prices for brokerage-related services and financial advice dropped 4.3 percent in September, accounting for about a quarter of the entire slide for final demand services.

The prospects heading into year's end are daunting.

In addition to the punk PPI number, retail sales gained by just 0.1 percent in September. Excluding autos, gasoline and building materials, sales actually declined 0.1 percent. On top of that, the August retail numbers were revised lower, with the headline rate now flat from the originally reported 0.2 percent gain.

A shopper checks out at a register at a Walmart in Los Angeles.
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A shopper checks out at a register at a Walmart in Los Angeles.

On the same day as the two disappointing data releases, Wal-Martwarned that the weakness is likely to extend through its fiscal year, with sales expected to be flat. The warning sent its shares tumbling 9 percent in morning trade, the worst performance in 15 years.

All in all, then, not a great environment in which to raise rates, which the Federal Reserve hopes to do before the end of the year.

"Consumers are growing increasingly uncertain regarding their future income streams and are less willing to finance today's spending with the prospect of tomorrow's improved, future earnings," Lindsey Piegza, chief economist at Stifel Fixed Income, said in a note to clients. "With gasoline prices at multiyear lows, consumers should be spending gangbusters but they aren't."

Wage growth remains elusive for most workers, with the average hourly earnings rising just 2.2 percent annually. Job growth has slowed as well, with average monthly nonfarm payroll additions in the third quarter down nearly 28 percent from the previous quarter.

The data on the ground shoot holes in a number of theories that were expected to drive the economy, market behavior and Fed policymaking.

Piegza said the latest numbers should give a boost to those advocating the Fed wait on the sidelines until it sees more evidence of inflation.

"This morning's [retail sales] report ... further bolsters the dovish argument to keep rates lower for longer until price pressures are evident in the economy," she wrote. "The question for the Fed is not when will inflation reverse course back to 2 percent, but, at this point, what inflation?

Economists expected 2015 to be the year the U.S. economy found some level of escape velocity from the post-Great Recession doldrums. The ever-growing prospect of deflation is changing all that.

The news isn't better elsewhere in the world, either. Fresh releases overnight saw China consumer prices rise 0.1 percent on a monthly basis and the yearly increase was just 1.6 percent, while Japan and India saw declines in wholesale prices that were more than expected.

"The U.S. economy remains the strongest in the developed markets, but there are cracks emerging," Bank of America Merrill Lynch said in a report for clients this week.

In response, BofAML has cut its outlook both for gross domestic product gains and the stock market. The firm now sees second-half GDP rising just 2.4 percent, from the previous 2.8 percent projection. Equity strategist Savita Subramanian has sliced her end-year forecast for the S&P 500 from 2,100 to 2,000 — about flat from the current level — and reduced her 12-month expectation for the index from a gain of 14 percent down to 8 percent.

Given an increasingly difficult set of circumstances, the Fed will struggle to justify a rate increase.

Forecasting firm Capital Economics, which has been expecting rate hikes going back to March, now believes nothing is likely to happen this year. Paul Ashworth, Capital's chief U.S. economist, cut his GDP expectations for the third quarter to 1.7 percent.

Other expectations are more pessimistic: The Atlanta Fed is projecting 1 percent growth, which is where JPMorgan Chase cut its target to on Wednesday, down from 1.5 percent."


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Think how much the economy will be stimulated in Michigan when IOC is taken over at $400 per share.
"And maybe someday we will find , that it wasn't really wasted time"
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There's that
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Why would anyone expect the US to get better?
Trial lawyers are in charge and gun control is the #1 issue, Sarcasm? yes. deserved? yes?
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'Putncalls' pid='63687' datel Wrote:Why would anyone expect the US to get better? Trial lawyers are in charge and gun control is the #1 issue, Sarcasm? yes. deserved? yes?

NO.  There you go again.  Let's get back to business.

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Bloomberg
The U.S. economy grew modestly with little inflation pressure from mid-August to early October as a strong dollar weighed on manufacturing and tourism, a Federal Reserve report showed.
Six of the 12 Fed districts called the expansion “modest,” while three reported “moderate” growth, according to the Beige Book released Wednesday in Washington. Two districts, Boston and Richmond, saw an increase in economic activity, while Kansas City declined. The pace of growth in Richmond and Chicago slowed compared with the previous report, the central bank said.
Labor markets “tightened in most districts” even as wage growth remained subdued, with increases concentrated among highly skilled workers, the report said. Price pressures were “contained” as some districts saw cheaper energy and commodities, according the survey, which is based on information Fed district banks gathered on or before Oct. 5.
“Business contacts across the nation were generally optimistic about the near-term outlook,” the report stated. Consumer spending “grew moderately,” housing and commercial real estate improved, and banking and finance “were generally positive,” the report stated.
Less favorable reports came from industries including manufacturing, which “turned in a mixed but generally weaker performance,” it said. Goods transportation also softened and the energy sector declined further.
Fed policy makers at their Sept. 16-17 meeting voted to leave their main policy interest rate unchanged, which has been held near zero since December 2008. They wanted to wait for more information to gauge how a slowdown in China influences their confidence in the outlook for U.S. inflation and growth.
October Meeting
Anecdotal evidence from the Beige Book will contribute to that debate when officials meet again on Oct. 27-28. This month’s gathering of the policy-setting Federal Open Market Committee is not scheduled to be followed by a press conference, while there is one planned after the Dec. 15-16 FOMC.
As some parts of the nation see stronger economic conditions, it may be fueling a divide between how regional Fed bank presidents and some members of the Fed’s Board of Governors in Washington view the strength of the expansion.
Minutes from the regional Fed board of directors’ September discount-rate meetings, released Tuesday, paint a picture of regional banks that are eager to begin tightening monetary policy. Eight of the 12 bank boards voted to increase the discount rate, which is applied to direct loans to banks from the Fed, up from five regional banks in August. The Board in Washington declined to implement their request.
In contrast, two Fed governors, Lael Brainard and Daniel Tarullo, urged patience in raising the benchmark federal funds rate in comments this week. Tarullo told CNBC Tuesday that he doesn’t currently favor raising interest rates in 2015, while Brainard, speaking the day before, highlighted that the risks of moving prematurely may be greater than the risks of waiting too long.
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Tug of war going on with different parts of economy. A bit to sort through ove the next 6 months.
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I'm testing the SHU water again with my remaining big toe in response to a multitude of requests.

New Math does not compute when it comes to understanding the world dynamics. My Old Math is simple and logical.

To my opnion, the negativity in the press is due to their lack of numeracy, not their desire to foment fear.

China GDP in 2005 was $2.3 Trillion. A +10% GDP Growth Rate back then was equivalent to only + $230 Billion

China GDP in 2014 was $10.3 Trillion. A +7% GDP Growth Rate was equivalent to + $721 Billion ... much more than in 2005

China GDP in 2015 will be $11.0 Billion. A +6.9% GDP Growth Rate will be equivalent to + $759 Billion .... GDP Growth INCREASED over 2014, so what's the issue????

Here's the issue in my view:

A much larger portion of the INCREASED GDP Growth in China is coming from an increased focus on Consumer spending rather than building more skyscrapers and apartments and infrastructure. This is exactly what the US has been pushing China to do for many years. HOWEVER, the US was hoping that the Chinese man-in-the-street would start buying imported products from America. Instead they're buying Chinese-produced stuff including cars, electronics and furniture etc.

This ongoing "progress" in China is why the US was so upset when China devalued the RMB by a few percent.

An increase in the Greenback will only worsen this situation, making US-produced goods even more expensive.

THE FED SHOULD GO TO NEGATIVE RATES AND STAY THERE FOR 2 YEARS.

Below is some insight on the situation in Singapore which is a mirror for other developed economies:

SINGAPORE AVOID TECHNICAL RECESSION, EASES MONETARY POLICY

Trade-dependent Singapore narrowly avoided a technical recession in the third quarter, official estimates showed Wednesday, but analysts said the city-state's growth outlook remains subdued because of China's slowdown.

In a move to bolster growth, the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) eased policy for a second time this year, slightly reducing the local dollar's rate of appreciation to make exports more competitive after other Asian countries weakened their own currencies.

The central bank uses currency policy rather than interest rates as a tool to tweak the island's open economy. It manages the Singapore dollar against an undisclosed basket of currencies of its major trading partners and competitors.

"The global disinflationary trend and depreciating currencies of our trading partners and competitors had somewhat eroded Singapore's export competitiveness," United Overseas Bank said in a market commentary.

"Going ahead, the 'milder' appreciation of our currency against the basket of currencies could help to support our export growth."

The Singapore dollar rose following the central bank move as traders focused on news that the economy averted a recession, but analysts expect it to ease in the coming months.

Advance estimates from the trade ministry showed GDP grew 0.1 percent in the July-September quarter, defying expectations of a second consecutive quarterly contraction, which would have pushed the economy into a technical recession.

An economic slump in China -- the world's second biggest economy -- is hurting demand for exports from Singapore and other Asian countries.

"Despite the close shave, the storyline hasn't changed," leading bank DBS said, adding that the "growth outlook remains dicey".

- 'Not out of the woods' -

The MAS noted that "China's growth momentum is easing on a sharp deceleration in investment growth" which it said was among the factors weighing on trade-dependent economies.

On an annual basis, GDP expanded 1.4 percent in the three months to September, slowing from 2.0 percent year-on-year growth in the June quarter.

The GDP estimates released Wednesday were based on only two months of data -- July and August -- and adjustments could still be made when the final numbers are calculated with the September figures.

"Singapore is not yet out of the woods," Rajiv Biswas, Asia-Pacific chief economist at IHS Global Insight, told AFP.

The government expects GDP to expand 2.0-2.5 percent for the full year, but DBS, Southeast Asia's biggest lender, is forecasting 1.8 percent growth.

"As China's GDP growth continues to slide, its Asia Pacific neighbours are starting to feel the pain," Biswas said.

He said the region's vulnerability to the slowdown in China has risen over the past decade as China's GDP surged to $10.3 trillion in 2014 from only $2.3 trillion in 2005.

Last year, China accounted for 15.3 percent of Singapore's non-oil domestic exports, much larger than the European Union's share of 11.1 percent and 9.5 percent for the United States, he said.

China also bought 35 percent of Australia's exports, 25 percent of South Korea's and 20 percent of Japan's in 2014, he said.

The World Bank is forecasting China's GDP to grow by 6.9 percent this year, moderating to 6.7 percent next year and 6.5 percent in 2017. GDP rose 7.3 percent in 2014

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Thanks for that information, Stavros! It's helpful.
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'Putncalls' pid='63687' datel Wrote:Why would anyone expect the US to get better? Trial lawyers are in charge and gun control is the #1 issue, Sarcasm? yes. deserved? yes?

Obviously you didn't watch the Democratic debate.  While the NRA was and will be challenged, if there was any chief focus it was one of income disparity,  When virtually all new wealth goes to the top 1% it shouldn't be a surprise that consumer demand will remain stagnant.  Funny, that seems to be just what this thread is all about.

As Bernie said, 'to hell with Hillary's emails'..

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