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The energy and climate debate
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[I hope Stavros will forgive me, but I've renamed the thread and replaced it here from the IOC forum, as it soon morphed into a discussion about energy policy and climate change, Admin]

A few smart industry observers are correct that LNG demand will double in the next 5-8 years. TOTAL plans to double the amount of LNG they're selling versus today.

BUTT most anal-ists don't understand this is happening ... or they understand and choose to ignore it for their own ( or employers' ) benefit.

All of the following conversions and new builds will add tremendously to LNG demand quite soon:

+ Train locomotive

+ Truck fleets

+ Small ships and tugs

+ Large ships

+ Dirty coal-fired power plants

+ Dirty oil-fired power plants

+ Heavy industrial equipment

The conversions are not that expensive and can be done relatively quickly. New builds are same cost for LNG-only and small increment higher for dual fuel.

Take a look at these recent articles ... all in the mast month alone:

http://www.lngworldnews.com/totem-ocean-keppel-sign-lng-conversion-deal/

http://www.lngworldnews.com/caterpillar-working-on-fure-west-lng-conversion/

http://www.lngworldnews.com/china-lng-huaqiang-natural-gas-form-jv/

http://www.lngworldnews.com/jensens-lng-atb-secures-aip-from-abs/

http://www.lngworldnews.com/scm-to-build-dual-fuel-ncsv-for-heerema/

http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/newthread.php?fid=4

etc and etc ... you catch my drift????

First came one, then came several, then BOOM ... everyone is jumping on-board.

On top of that, there are a huge number of cars, trucks and large industrial equipment being converted to Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) and even more new builds coming out of the factories every day. In many cases the CNG comes from LNG that's pumped to high pressure and vaporized.

Drivel Maven with Personality
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#2
Wood McKenzie has no ties to any LNG producer and shows continuing rise of LNG use and a large drop off in supply starting in 2021 based on contracted cargoes . Slide 35 of the AGM slides shows the supply drop off which is real and the projected rise in demand above where we are today . Supply drops over 50 percent between 2021 and 2035 based on their work . In this supply drop Interoil plans to sell its LNG cargos from the lowest cost new build in the world . This is not rocket science .
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#3
Nat gas is not the driver toward the PC move toward lower emissions it was just a couple years ago. Gas is being politically bypassed to subsidized renewables. Just check out the move by our omniscient President. And don't forget the nukes. Cost matters, but being the most PC matters even more when you're spending other people's money and our Asian LNG market is PC.

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#4
Sore winners.
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#5

The point of all this is that the LT forecasts, high and low aren't worth much. Beyond 2-3 years they are historically horrible at predicting energy fuel types, prices and levels. I'm in the energy business and every year we do 10-year forecasts and beyond 3 or 4 years we don't put much faith in what they show. Things are changing so fast in the energy sector and technolgy has a lot to do with that. On any given day one can find bullish LNG prices out to 2030 and you can also find bearish. When oil stopped being absolute king of everything the energy world has changed for the overall better. But it will be in flux for the next 10-15 years at least. Too many variables that can change things substantially.

This artice is from 2014 and is part 3 of 3 and shows how bad LT forecasting has been since the '70s. What will be will be and I've yet to see a crystal ball that comes with a performance guarantee.


THE TRACK RECORD OF LONG-TERM ENERGY FORECASTING



THE TRACK RECORD OF LONG-TERM ENERGY FORECASTING


Long-term energy forecasts have a poor track record.  They have failed to accurately predict total energy demand, sector demand and energy prices.  Attempts to improve accuracy by adding more factors to explain consumption and pricing has complicated the models without necessarily improving their results.  This last of 3 articles on long-term energy forecasting focuses on why long-term energy forecasting is so difficult, ideas to improve it and suggested alternatives.


The Track Record is Poor for Predicting Long-Term Energy Consumption


Long-term energy forecasting only became common after oil prices spiked in the 1973-74.  Afterwards, there were dozens of forecasts of US energy demand in the year 2000.  The graph below summarizes the range of predictions.  Actual demand in 2000 was 105 exajoules.  The curve numbers refer to the particular studies as described in the DOE report, Energy Demands 1972 to 2000, published in 1979.

Predictions of US Energy Demand in 1990 and 2000

US energy demand forecasts

Source: Craig, Gadgil and Koomey (2002).

Energy demand had always been well-correlated with population and economic growth and population and GDP growth were well-behaved for the US.  So, why did so many forecasts greatly overestimate energy demand in 2000?

Because forecasters did not anticipate higher energy prices would lead to a sustained demand for more energy-efficient vehicles and appliances resulting in a marked long-term decrease in energy consumption.

This example illustrates one of the biggest problems facing forecasters—predicting the unexpected: changes in behavior and technology, and global events like the rise of OPEC and terrorism.  Consequently, maybe it is not surprising that forecasting accuracy has not improved much in the last 30-40 years.

An article written late last year looked back at the US EIA’s (Energy Information Administration) 2005 Annual Energy Outlook’s predictions for 2013.  It forecasted $25-30/barrel oil and gasoline prices of $1.50/gal.  Actual prices were $100/barrel and $3.50/gal.  Other nations’ forecasts were not much better.


Failures to Accurately Predict Other Aspects of Energy Use


In addition to failing to predict primary energy demand and prices, long-term energy forecasts have also failed to accurately predict other aspects of energy use:

  • Sector demand (electricity generation, transportation, etc.)
  • Exhaustion of energy supply sources
  • Changes in energy sources (oil for coal)
  • The contributions of various energy sources in meeting overall demand and,
  • The impact of technology.

Just as total US energy consumption in 2000 was overestimated, so was electricity demand.

In 1977, 70 energy experts from government, business and academia met for the Workshop on Alternative Energy Strategies.  They concluded that global oil demand would outstrip supply before 2000.  Oil production would most likely peak between 1994 and 1997 and be just 40% of that peak value today.

In the 1950’s it was widely thought that nuclear energy would replace all fossil fuels for electricity generation.  By the 1970’s interest in nuclear power was declining and today, no developed nation has plans to install more nuclear power and some are decommissioning existing nuclear plants.

The time for photovoltaics to become economical and widely adopted has been consistently underestimated.


Why Have Most Long-Term Energy Forecasts Been Inaccurate?


Bezdek and Wendling analyzed 49 energy studies done between 1952 and 2001 which attempted to forecast long-term energy developments.  They concluded that many shared the same problems:

  • Discounting the impact of energy prices on consumption and the adaptability of markets.
  • Not allowing for improvements in existing technologies.
  • Overestimating the rate of adoption of new energy sources.
  • Assuming the major barriers to adopting renewables were politics and policy and not economics.

Moreover, the accuracy of both government and private forecasts are adversely affected by bias—changing assumptions so the forecast supports a particular policy or desired future outcome.


Are Long-Term Energy Models Too Complicated?


Yes.  These models need to be simplified.

The previous article about forecasting methods discussed efforts to make forecasts more accurate by combining econometric methods with “what-is-possible” methods, like end-use and scenario analysis.  But, attempts to make long-term energy forecasts more realistic by incorporating the impact of discontinuous changes have led to increasingly complicated models without significantly improving their accuracy (see above).

V. Smil argues that the large number of linked assumptions in these models defeats the quest for realism.  The greater the number of variables to be estimated, the greater the overall error since each estimate has error limits associated with it.  If the confidence limits are too wide, the spread of outcomes may be too large to be useful for decision-making.  Smil’s concerns are shared by others.

In his book, Forecasting: An Appraisal for Policymakers and Planners, Ascher states that forecast accuracy is affected less by the choice of methodology than by the forecaster’s core assumptions.


What Other Changes Have Been Proposed to Improve Long-Term Energy Forecasts?


Those who believe that long-term forecasting is necessary but flawed argue for 3 similar approaches:

  1. Replace quantitative forecasts with scenario analysis so that decisions can be based on a range of outcomes (Smil).
  2. Consider forecasting to be a form of risk analysis and aim for forecast-proof society (Cobb).
  3. Introduce uncertainty into forecasts (Morgan).

Each of these approaches is based on the fact that the future is uncertain.  Rather than pursuing a point forecast, we acknowledge the inherent uncertainty in long-term forecasts and present a range of outcomes.

Smil emphasizes a contingency planning approach based on exploring a range of scenarios.  The analysis methods can range from narrative and normative scenarios to Monte Carlo simulations and stochastic programming.

While normative scenarios (what should happen instead of what is likely to happen) can be useful, their analysis must be probing and critical.  They must not be allowed to become tools for those advocating particular views.

Cobb writes that since forecast accuracy declines rapidly with time, the range of outcomes is more important than the middle value.  He compares preparing for an uncertain energy future to buying homeowner’s insurance.  Since energy supply risks cannot be quantified, he recommends analyzing the types of risk we face and insuring ourselves as warranted.

Morgan accepts that quantitative forecasts are unlikely to disappear.  To make them more realistic, he advocates replacing definitive forecasts with probabilistic ones.

While I endorse Morgan’s proposal, error estimates can be very subjective.  This is especially true for those variables which are the most uncertain.  A forecaster faced with wide error bars is likely to reduce them to make the forecast more credible.


Conclusions:


  1. Long-term energy forecasting has a poor track record for predicting primary and sector energy demand, energy prices, exhaustion of existing energy sources and the rate of adoption of new energy sources.
  2. Attempts to improve long-term forecasts have made models too complex, requiring the estimate of many critical variables, introducing more error with each variable added.
  3. Decisions about long-term energy demand are best based on a range of alternative outcomes, acknowledging the uncertainty in trying to predict the future and the long history of failure trying to do so.

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#6
Wood Mc Kenzie is using signed LNG contracts not estimates for supply. The supply side drops off 50 percent based on those contracts. Arun is a great example 6 trains to ZERO trains. No more gas. Just look at slide 35. Now the demand side has risk for where it might go. Anyone who thinks LNG supply needs for the market will drop by 50% needs to look a little closer at why China is building 20 and more LNG regas terminals. What rational person thinks the middle class of China and India are going to drop 50 percent from here???
The reality is there will be all types of renewables as a larger percent of energy that's a given. BUT LNG needs are not going to drop 50%. No that's not reality . The low cast supplier can and will charge a premium to future partners and will have higher margins than others.
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#7

Natural gas is still a huge component in the global energy mix and will be for decades into the future. Short of nuclear or renewables, gas is the cleanest fossil fuel available. The global move to decarbonize energy use is well underway and, I believe, inevitable; and one of the main pathways to such decarbonization is the substitution of low-carbon gas for coal or oil: switching end-use energy supplies from high carbon fossil fuels (oil and particularly coal) in electricity production, transportation, buildings, and industry to lower carbon fuels (such as nat gas or biofuels). The Obama Energy Plan recognizes this, and despite opposition from the coal and oil industry, the plan still envisions a huge role for nat gas as a bridge fuel to the future. The Obama plan or some version of it will be our future, and as its impacts are sorted out, there may even be efforts to revive a carbon cap-and trade regimen or a carbon tax. In any event, businesses in the US and globally recognize that some form of carbon regulation is in the cards. Nat gas provides one of the easiest methods for existing businesses (including utility plants) to transition to a lower-carbon footprint. Solar and wind renewables will continue to ramp up their share of the total energy mix, but realistically there is a limit to that share until better storage options are available. Until then, nat gas demand will continue to increase worldwide. Of course the rate of that increase is unknown and unknowable, but with the IOC resource on the doorstep of the continent with by far the largest energy use on the planet, I don't think we need worry about the future demand for E/A  or TBR gas.

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#8
Tree: You missed my point. People won't put solar and wind turbines on top of existing ships and trains and trucks and auto fleets.
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#9
I agree, 2126. Well said!
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#10
I also agree but when you peel back the US energy proposal it really discourages much use of NG electric generation and through possible cap & trade makes it more expensive to end users. They have backed things off by a couple of years per comments which were submitted during the comment period, but the real incentives will be given toward renewables.

This extra time will allow things like battery technology to further be developed. Strides are being made with batteries now. Consumers in the US (similar to what's going on in Japan and elsewhere) are wanting it. In fact being in the electric distribution industry I see the strides being made. A large industrial load installed 2 industrial windmills which provided 16% of their demand last year; more than they anticipated.

We are now considering a community solar project where customers can pay for one or more solar panels in the project and have that power designated to them on their bill. Most of these projects are being sold out before final construction is complete. Net of subsidies the cost is getting very competitive. Many utilities doing this are finding themselves jumping into a second project soon after the first is built. This was unheard of a couple of years ago. No doubt the subsidies make it work, but it won't be long and the subsidies will move from windmills and solar panels to the batteries. Again, consumers want it.

I was a huge skeptic a couple of years ago, but I see the ever-changing numbers constantly and the technology driving this is amazing. Big dollars lining up behind it. Austin Texas has a goal of 55% of it's electric from renewables and is receiving bids for solar at just under .04/kWh. Unheard of.

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