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How Nautilus gets to $40 in 3 years
#11

'maui4marko' pid='56328' datel Wrote:

While we wait for news coming out of the 2014 AGM, this is speculation about where the share price *could* be in 3-5 years.  Pump Alert for Monk.

Officially known as Tongling Nonferrous Metals Group, Tongling has agreed to purchase 1.1 MTPA (million tonnes per annum) of ore mined from Sol1, plus or minus 20%.  With Nautilus' plans to mine a minimum of 1.1 MTPA per year, the "plus or minus 20%" really means only plus 20%.

With planned daily mine production of 3,200 to 3,600 tonnes, Sol1's minimum target equals the base agreement of 1.1 MTPA (3,200 x 365 = 1,168,000) while the maximum equates to +20% of the base for 1.3 MTPA (3,600 x 365 = 1,314,000).  See the Seafloor Gold & Copper Exploration thread that establishes a value of $696 per tonne for Sol1 ore ($1,949M resource value divided by 2.8 MT indicated and inferred Sol 1&12 resources).

With a minimum daily gross revenue of over $2M (3,200 x $696 = $2,227,200) those $200K daily vessel rates don't look so bad lol.  And when Nautilus tunes the mining process and improves to their maximum Sol1 mining production rate, they will be grossing $2.5M per day.  And even better Tongling will pay 90% of each load's value immediately upon offloading from Nautilus vessel onto Tongling's ore carrier.  Talk about fast monetization!  It just doesn't get any better than that.

Or does it?  Remember Sol1 is just the first mine site.  We've got dozens more in PNG alone, and dozens of confirmed and potential jurisdications beyond that (CCV anyone?).

Base case of $2M per day x 365 mining days per year = $800M+ per year revenue (3,200 x $696 x 365 = $812,928,000).  With the current price per share of $0.41USD, that would imply a PE of 0.115 ($0.41 price divided by earnings per share ($813M / 228.8M shares).  To get to a PE multiple of 10x the Nautilis share price would have to rise an incredible 86 times to a share price of $35.

So in the likely event of a "+20% Tongling scenario" Nautilus could be valued at an unbelievable $40 per share.  At today's depressed copper and gold prices, 10x PE, and Sol 1&12 only. 

In 5 years we can easily get to $100 with some or all of:  higher commodity prices, improved productivity/lower mining costs, 2nd vessel & mining tools and PNG tenement. Add additional future mines in other countries, first mover advantage, self-financed growth, huge cost advantage over land-based mining, 70% of the globe vs. today's 30% for land only...

Apologies for the pumper-style post, but every time I do the math I get goose bumps (chicken skin in Hawaii lol).

Please check my math.

Maui do you think this is still possible?

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#12

'Seanncn' pid='66594' dateline='<a href="tel:1455216 Wrote:

Maui do you think this is still possible?

Short answer: yes

Slightly longer answer:  I wouldn't have dropped $NN,000 today if I wasn't still a believer

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#13

M4M said "Slightly longer answer:  I wouldn't have dropped $NN,000 today if I wasn't still a believer."

Sure hard to still be a believer when they could not come up with a better answer than this awful dilution.  Did it really have to be at $.15 a share?

But, silly me, I am continuing to average down.  I will be the only one I can blame if the one of worst case scenarios emerge as reality.  Hope the scenario of buy out at $0.04 (or worse) is not the one that wins out.  There would go our Nautilus $10.00 in '18 out the window  <img src=" border="0" class="smilie" src="http://shareholdersunite.com/mybb/images/smilies/angry.gif" />

Scampoco

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#14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0
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#15

'Carthum236' pid='66616' datel Wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

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#16

'scampoco' pid='66649' datel Wrote:

'Carthum236' pid='66616' datel Wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

where is the Filipino Version mauahahah

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#17

'Seanncn' pid='66650' datel Wrote:

'scampoco' pid='66649' datel Wrote:

'Carthum236' pid='66616' datel Wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcjzHMhBtf0

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

where is the Filipino Version mauahahah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZBBDYao9W4

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#18

'Seanncn' pid='66594' datel Wrote:

'maui4marko' pid='56328' datel Wrote:

With planned daily mine production of 3,200 to 3,600 tonnes, Sol1's minimum target equals the base agreement of 1.1 MTPA (3,200 x 365 = 1,168,000) while the maximum equates to +20% of the base for 1.3 MTPA (3,600 x 365 = 1,314,000).  See the Seafloor Gold & Copper Exploration thread that establishes a value of $696 per tonne for Sol1 ore ($1,949M resource value divided by 2.8 MT indicated and inferred Sol 1&12 resources).

Maui do you think this is still possible?

Sean, I ran the numbers with updated commodity prices.  The value per tonne today is $511, a 27% drop from $696 above.

Even with the ore price falling by over a quarter since my last valuation, Sol1* ore is still worth $1.43B.  And with gold+silver apparently bottoming, there could be plenty of upside ... as in exponential upside.

I agree with everyone here that NUS is in a tenuous position re: funding, but with some faith in the technology coming together per plan, and no major black swans that knock out any of the partners/suppliers/contractors, first ore is not that far away.

$40 or $0.  Could go either way.

*Includes Sol1 Indicated & Inferred + Sol12 Inferred

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#19

'maui4marko' pid='56328' datel Wrote:

Base case of $2M per day x 365 mining days per year = $800M+ per year revenue (3,200 x $696 x 365 = $812,928,000).  With the current price per share of $0.41USD, that would imply a PE of 0.115 ($0.41 price divided by earnings per share ($813M / 228.8M shares).  To get to a PE multiple of 10x the Nautilis share price would have to rise an incredible 86 times to a share price of $35.

So in the likely event of a "+20% Tongling scenario" Nautilus could be valued at an unbelievable $40 per share.  At today's depressed copper and gold prices, 10x PE, and Sol 1&12 only. 

Does $40 potential even exist any more?  Or is that Maui guy smoking the medical mj stuff?!?

It's the end of my day so I'll update the above numbers tomorrow (unless someone beats me to it). 


Refreshing the numbers will tell us the combined impact of:

1) commodity prices getting hammered over the last year

2) share price dilution from capital raise.

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